You don't have to throw away your existing EDI in order to start with some
basic ebXML.
Just identify a basic ebXML business process model and have your X12/EDIFACT
file be the ebXML payload.
When an ebXML Core Components 'library' comes about, as a result of the
joint X12 and EDIFACT work group efforts, people will also (in addition to
existing EDI files) probably have a better XML based message payload to work
with too.

Dave Welsh





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From: James Bryce Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 11:52 AM
To: Abid Farooqui
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Subject: Re: [Fwd: Example Scenarios Used Within the Aerospace Industry]


At 11:17 AM 6/4/01, you wrote:

>Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 14:16:14 -0400
>From: Abid Farooqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Example Scenarios Used Within the Aerospace Industry
>
>Isn't it true that ebXML messaging can be used to deliver traditional EDI
>payloads as well.

Yes indeed.

>Probably there has to be ways of delivering that payload to
>the EDI mapping engine like DI or GenTran but ebXML messaging could be used
as
>the transport correct?

Once past transport, the receiver's business service interface has, broadly
speaking, two problems.

First, it must correctly interpret the element that identifies the schema
(such as X12) in which the payload documents are encoded, so it can send
that data stream to something that can interpret it.  (Like your EDI
engine.)

Second, it must correctly apply the ebXML business signals so that it can
read and process the simple business-rule context of that payload -- Is
this a response?  A request?  To what?  Is it logically dependent on or
conditioned on another message already received, or to come?  Is this
binding?  Does it conform to whatever rules for acknowledgement, encryption
or signature are invoked?

>I am new to ebXML so feel free to correct me.
>I believe that changes from large EDI users to adapt ebXML will be slow
>but they
>have to be made because there is a very good business case to do that.

The ebXML business process group spent a lot of time working closely with
the X12, EDIFACT and RosettaNet communities precisely to preserve the
upgrade path you describe.

Best regards

James Bryce Clark
McLure Moynihan Inc.
818 597 9475     [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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