Hello Rich,

it is dangerous (because of possible duplicates) to resend a message with a new ID, 
therefore this should be avoided. Your WebMethods software should have a way to reset 
the duplicates check for a given ID (and ideally it should not mark a message as 
received unless it has actually received the message in a way it is usefull for the 
application).

I dont know the WM tool, but I know that our software offers you the ability to mark 
an already received id for "re-receiving" and it also allows already received messages 
in the archive for reprocessing. It is guranteed that the message is in the archive 
before the ID is locked (which is the requirmeent of the AS2) - to ensure that exactly 
your problem will not happen.

That said, it would be kind from your Trading Partner to resend the message. If the 
"EDI" folks refuse to do that (for example because the software does not support it), 
it is also possible to just ask the ERP folks to resend it. This normally will result 
in a new transmission ID, anyway.

Mit freundlichen Gr��en
Bernd Eckenfels
Chief Architect
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Message: 13        
   Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:41:11 -0500
   From: "Hurd, Richard [SLCUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: EDIINT - duplicate Message IDs/Message Digests?

Which is the more common practice (and which is the compliant practice) for
EDIINT message failures - resend a message with duplicate Message IDs and
Message Digests, or make them always unique?

We are receiving duplicates, and our WebMethods installation is refusing to
open the payloads because the original message failed (for an unknown
reason) and the re-send from the trading partner is a duplicate as far as WM
is concerned.  The trading partner refuses to resend the document using a
different ID and digest, so here we sit; with a payload that is for all
intents and purposes useless.  

The trading partner maintains that "it's standard practice to resend the
same message until an MDN is received" and our team is saying of course "we
are not so sure resending message IDs and message digests is standard
practice in AS2."

The finger pointing game begins.  

Any opinions?  All I want is my lousy data.  

Rich Hurd
Johnson & Johnson Consumer Companies
IM Planning & Logistics
Phone: (908) 874-1523
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