Hi Travis,
I'm not saying it's ok, I don't like it and think it's unfair too.
but my whole point is this scenario isn't unique to EDI. It would be too
far off topic to start debating unethical sales practices, monopolistic
practices and what is and what isn't, there are far too many grey areas
inbetween. Your company has a choice to drop a vendor, if there was only
one vendor around that would be a monopoly. but Wally worlds of goods
still has competitors for now.
Regards,
-Steve
Travis Truax
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How can you say it's unethical but ok?
>Nutrasweet manufacturing sells Fast food customer who demands Nutrasweet
>from McDonalds.
>
>Ultra Super AS2 software company sells Wally Worlds of Goods who demands
>supplier use Ultra Super AS2 software.
How can you be missing that big part about how Nutrasweet did nothing but
advertise to create demand for their product? Ultra Super Software just
bribed Wally Worlds of Goods to force demand for their goods!
When Microsoft tries these kinds of things the government comes down on
them.
Your examples all seem to revolve around advertisements - If you see these
as
some sort of mass hypnosis device, I can see they relate, but otherwise-
people
are free to demand what they decide to demand. No impropriety here, maybe
persuasion.
This is the land of opportunity, so maybe I'm just too naive. Does everyone
else think
"Anything goes to make money" is a good company moto? Our company
should just pass the buck onto our vendors... ;)
Travis-
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Not supply and demand, the seller has skipped a step and sold the end user.
Nutrasweet:
Manufacturer/Software Vendor sells Customer who in turn demands product
from Supplier/Fast food chain.
Nutrasweet manufacturing sells Fast food customer who demands Nutrasweet
from McDonalds.
Ultra Super AS2 software company sells Wally Worlds of Goods who demands
supplier use Ultra Super AS2 software.
"Retailer has existing relationship with supplier."
You eat at McDonalds now.
"Software company approaches retailer with proposition.
(Free software/service for retailer.)
(Possibly "incentive" to decision makers at retailer.)
(Retailer must require suppliers to comply.)"
You will do anything to loose weight, Nutrasweet is offering you that <I
don't get how these two relate?>
"Retailer implements new system."
You will only use Nutrasweet now
"Suppliers follow or close down."
McDonalds has to buy Nutrasweet ot miss the bus.
It may be unethical, but not fraud to create sell or create demand for your
product at the end user.
Remember to entice / to provide incentive / to create demand / to sell is
all the same.
There are certainly better examples than the Nutrasweet which I took off
the top of my head, but the same theory applies. You ever wonder why
prescription TV ads or Beef council 'Steak it's that good' commercials
appear on TV? You aren't actually buying directly from the prescription
company or beef council of america, buy you are going to ask your supplier
for it.
Regards,
-Steve
Travis Truax
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I see that as very different. You're talking about supply & demand.
I'm talking about fraud:
Retailer has existing relationship with supplier.
Software company approaches retailer with proposition.
(Free software/service for retailer.)
(Possibly "incentive" to decision makers at retailer.)
(Retailer must require suppliers to comply.)
Retailer implements new system.
Suppliers follow or close down.
If you consider the commercial bombardment of nutrasweet ads
brainwashing, the situations would be closer to the same, because
the "demand" in that instance of "supply & demand" was
heavily manipulated. I just see it as advertisement.
Travis-
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