Nope - the same manufacturer.  The "58970" part identifies the
manufacturer in this particular coding scheme.  The leading "3" in the
consumer code identifies it as an NDC code (or something to that affect).

Mike

--- In [email protected], Travis Truax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Grocery eh? Can't say I'm really versed in that market, but we have
sold to
> a few.
> 
> Using your example:
> 
> 3-58790-00228-6 and 1-00-58790-00228-2
> 
> These are 2 different manufacturer ids, right? 358790 & 058790
(presuming
> they are not longer than 6 digits) The situation I described is usually
> handled with 2 separate UPCs. 
> (like 0-58790-00228-6 for the EA and 0-58790-00229-9 for the CA and the
> shipping case would I suppose be 1-00-58790-00228-2 or
1-00-58790-00229-5.
> 
> Travis-
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Rawlins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 1:22 PM
> To: edi-l
> Subject: RE: [EDI-L] UCC Code variations
> 
> 
> At 01:10 PM 7/29/2005 -0500, Travis Truax wrote:
> >What is a U.P.C. Case Code? Are you referring to a product that has
> multiple
> >consumer units (like a case of candy bars that can be purchased at
POS or
> >torn into and purchased separately at POS?
> 
> The verbiage comes from the X12 standards.  My experience is that
grocers 
> and other retailers use it (using your example) to identify the case of 
> candy bars for ordering, invoicing, and shipping purposes, and the 
> individual bars in the case would be purchased separately at POS.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> >Travis-
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Mike Rawlins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Friday, July 29, 2005 12:38 PM
> >To: edi-l
> >Subject: [EDI-L] UCC Code variations
> >
> >
> >Another question on codes today:
> >
> >What is (or should be) the relationship between:
> >
> >U.P.C. Consumer Package Code (1-5-5)    UI in X12 DE 235
> >U.P.C./EAN Case Code (2-5-5)                    UA in X12 DE 235
> >EAN/UCC 14                                      UK in X12 DE 235
> >
> >My hunch is that for any given product the first two are usually
subsets of
> >the third.  Again, I've researched but can't find a definitive
answer about
> >this.
> >
> >I have a situation where the consumer package code isn't a subset
of the
> >EAN/UCC 14 code (e.g. 3-58790-00228-6 and 1-00-58790-00228-2), and my
> >client doesn't publish the U.P.C/EAN Case code on their price list.
 Some
> >of their customers think the 12 digit case code should have a "3"
in the
> >second position to match the consumer package code, and others think it
> >should have a "0" to match the 14 digit case code.  The only values
that
> >are actually barcoded are the consumer package code and the EAN/UCC
14 code
> >on the case.
> >
> >Anyone have any ideas on this?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting
> >www.rawlinsecconsulting.com
> >Using XML with Legacy Business Applications (Addison-Wesley, 2003)
> >www.awprofessional.com/titles/0321154940
> >
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