Good point about browser alternative to grep.

With respect to the present situation surrounding XML adoption, it
occurs to me that folks using XML have been, among other things, trying
to do an end-run around the standards development processes (perceived
by many as too slow) used by EDIFACT, X12, etc.  Unfortunately, the
fragmentation and lack of rigorousness significantly impacts the
adoption rate and is basically a step backward.  If similar standards
development processes were applied to XML message designs, the whole
thing would probably be adopted much more quickly (still, admittedly, a
long time).

Best regards,
Bill Chessman
Inovis(tm)

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Thomas Seay
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 4:32 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [EDI-L] Re: <TECH> Tool for pruning XML Schemas?



Well, grep is useful but if you have a tag like <ID>
as in, say, UBL and its significance depends on its
context (it could appear in several places in the
document nested in several different hierarchies of
tags) then grep may or may not be very useful.  As for
the case where you dont have a unix system, just bring
it up in your browser and use the find command.

Is XML ready for prime time?  Well, that's the wrong
question because XML is not only ready for prime time,
it's been prime time for a number of years.  But I
think what is meant is, is a particular flavor of B2B
Xml ready for prime time.  That depends, they are not
yet as comprehensive as X12 and, as a result, when a
particular document is needed and a standard has not
been devised for that document companies tend to "roll
their own" and come up with an XML based on their own
needs.  This sometimes leads to problems, especially
if quality analysis has not been done and either side
is not rigorous in implementing validation of a DTD or
schema.  Quite frankly, that's not good.  There will
be standards as robust and comprehensive as X12 but by
that time
people are going to have all of these home grown x12
documents that they will have been exchanging.

EDI will die, but very slowly.  This is not due to the
usual reasons given but because of the nature of tools
being developed to process B2B.  Think of EDI like 8
track tapes.  Nothing really wrong with 8 track tapes,
except one day it becomes hard to find an 8 track tape
player.  That will be the fate of EDI, albeit it will
happen less precipitously than in the case of the 8
track tape.

Thomas

>

"...everytime we move it ahead, it's thrown back.  But the base camp has
been made, and the next wave will come and find your wreckage, and
they'll be encouraged to go beyond that."

-Timothy O'Leary


                
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