An EXCELLENT group to which I belong that is political FOR programmers and
I.T. workers is Programmers Guild .... it is a dues paying group with the
president often on Lou Dobbs news program. There is a list serve group
with no dues however, and I highly recommend it....
Karen Brasier
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Can we all get back to what the purpose of this group is all about...
please!!!
Questions on EDI... answers about EDI... if you want to talk politics, join
a political group!!!
I for one don't need 25 e-mails regarding your feelings about world
issues!!! Maybe joining this group was a mistake... I thought we were all
professionals here!!!
"Rachel Foerster"
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For those who believe they can halt globalization of commerce - and with it
globalization of the workforce - I suggest you read Thomas L. Friedman's
book, The World is Flat: A Brief History of the 21st Century. That genie is
out of the bottle - and has been ever since humans began leaving Africa
tens
of thousands of years ago.
Rachel
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I humbly disagree with there being no sense in decrying this situation. We
can change what happens in the USA. Realize this is a global list, but
none of the other countries have 'open borders' policy as we
do....Corporations love cheap labor at the expense of the American Workers.
We can and will change this policy, making it less attractive to
'outsource'
for the corporations.
Karen Brasier
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We must remember that this is a global list for a global community. Many
of
us have "lost" jobs to outsource services, some in other countries. There
is no more sense in decrying this situation than there was 100 years ago
when blacksmiths began to be unemployable because of Henry Ford. Smart
blacksmiths went to work for Ford. Smarter ones purchased stock.
Progress happens.
The book, "Who Moved My Cheese" was a best seller, partly because it is
thin, but mostly because it addresses this very issue.
It is time we, the IT community in the western world, start evaluating our
futures. Is the job you're doing the only thing you can do? Better learn
something new. Are you counting on employment for 100% of your income, now
and in the future? What was that your grandmother said about eggs and
baskets?
After work, I teach people how to diversify their income sources. If you
want to know more, contact me via my business email: acd<at>ix.netcom.com.
Art Douglas
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No, the proper response for the off shore request is "What is the rate you
are paying".
For one who has been unemployed for the last 6 months now after 16 years in
the EDI community I am tired of all of the support that we give to the
request for information that is from the off-shore area.
Sure, I might know the answer but why offer if for free when I am now done
with my severance package, my unemployement and now am living on my
savings.
My job was outsourced and the automotive sector for supply parts OEM is
going to China. Jobs are hard to come by and any help would be a plus. So
for me I say what is your rate and I can help you with your problem.
Better
start to see what is going around or you will be in the same boat as me
without a job and the only prospect is to move from my family and friends.
Off shore was great for my company but it sure was not great for me and my
family.
I can tell you that after doing automotive EDI for 16 years for the off
shore companies they were not there to offer me a job when I needed it.
Not really bitter but just trying to deal with reality and what I will be
doing with the rest of my life since it has been six months with nothing.
John
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The tandard response to a equest like this: I uggest you ontact your
lient's
trading artner and find out what hey are xpecting, or will be sending.
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Hello All,
Currently we are doing OSTRPT message mapping for our client.
This is the first time our lient is rying o send such a message.
They are using EDIFACT.
Can anyone help us with some old sample messages so that we can get an
idea about the data that is to be sent.
Any help in this regard will be highly appreciated.
Sovik
Business Consultants Group,
Calcutta,
India
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