Not only is it not tedious, I think it speaks to the crux of the X12 versus XML matter.
I am not sure exactly what the answer to this will be, but I think the question needs to be asked. :) Even if the purpose is internal conversion - so that you are taking X12 documents, for example, and reformatting them to XML to enter an SAP XI system - if you don't have a canonical (read "standard") of some sort, aren't you simply adding another layer of complexity to things? Like X12 -> custom XML -> canonical XML -> target system requirements? When does the process grind to a halt because of the sheer volume of conversions? :) -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Chessman Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 1:07 PM To: EDI-L Listserv Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <TECH> Looking For Latest X12 <> XML Definitions Perhaps I'm being dense, but this continues to be a source of some mystification to me. Maybe I'm not asking the right questions, so let me try these: - Assuming folks use one of the tools Bryce mentions, would the creation of XML versions of X12 documents be for internal or transmission purposes? (After all, the primary point of the EDI, I believe, is/was transmission.) - Also, given that at least XMLSpy is pretty much a tool for anything that uses XML syntax, would the conversion of the EDI to XML result in a one-to-one replacement of the data elements in the EDI document (effectively little more than a substitution of one syntax for another)? (Alternatively, could it be that everyone plans/wants to do their own personalized conversion which will likely be incompatible with everyone else's personalized version?) - Having said that, if the answer to the first question above is "internal" then I guess I understand well enough. On the other hand, if the answer is "transmission", then it gets a little more complex... --> Assuming the XML is a one-for-one replacement, I still have no answer to one of my original questions posed (admittedly repeatedly over the last few years): what does this sort of replacement buy us? What do we gain? --> If, alternatively, we are doing customized reformatting, do we instead open the can of worms posed by lack of standards? (Not trying to say that EDI ever fully solved this problem, though it has always been one of it's primary goals.) Still seeking answers in the murk. Best regards, Bill Chessman Inovis(tm) P.S. Apologies to those who find my continuing pursuit of this topic to be redundant, repetitious and possibly tedious. ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryce K. Nielsen Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 9:17 PM To: EDI-L Listserv Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM] Re: [EDI-L] <TECH> Looking For Latest X12 <> XML Definitions <excerpt_from_Bryce> As others have noted, there are many tools that can give you an XML version of an X12 document. Biztalk has a few built in, XMLSpy has a tool to import text-documents (and Altova, the company that makes XMLSpy also have MapForce, a powerhorse for translating), Tibco has a tool (can't think of the name), etc. </excerpt_from_Bryce> ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix. Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L RSS feed is: http://rss.groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/rss Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Home is just a click away. Make Yahoo! your home page now. http://us.click.yahoo.com/DHchtC/3FxNAA/yQLSAA/OIFolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> ... Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix. Access the list online at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L RSS feed is: http://rss.groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/rss Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDI-L/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
