I know this message is quite old, but we are now embarking on the 
same SAP endeavour.  I am curious to know what version of XI was 
being ran by Gabriel and whether or not anything has changed since 
this post was made.

Ken Persing
Navarre Corp.


--- In [email protected], <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Pete.
> 
> Well, it is clear that EDI consists of following:
> 
> 1. communication (no XI)
> 2. translation (50% XI covered)
> 3. mapping (100% XI covered)
> 
> XI provides mapping and (may be with some extra features) 
translation.
> Communication is out of XI's scope.
> Anyway, a simple communication interface can be installed on 
almost any
> other computer used for thispurpose.
> 
> To solve 1 and 2 with SAP XI naturally, you would need some 
special adapter
> engine (Seeburger and ATOS have its own) which will act as 
communication
> interface and also provide automatic translation (from/to XML). 
This is a
> kind of XI add-in...
> We decided (becose of price) not to use this kind of adapter.
> 
> So: XI alone will not replace EDI system fully. It provides 
integration
> engine, no EDI communication interfaces. XI has default 
communication
> adapters as can be seen in attachement (sorry for quality). Other 
can be bought.
> 
> As communication interface we are using OFTP communication 
software RVS (by
> Gedas) which is able to send and receive EDI files over ISDN, 
X.25, TCP/IP
> and others. Currently I am searching for EDIINT/AS2 software 
solution being
> able to do the same job over HTTPS. (any recommendations 
appreciated!!!)
> 
> Anyway, our communication and translation engines are not part of 
SAP XI. If
> you want to replace your current existing solution, it may be an 
interesting
>  idea to stay with current communication engine (communication 
itself is not
> as complex as mapping; you keep your existing licenses) and 
replace only
> mapping engine with XI.
> 
> Another great advantage of XI (which I daily appreciate) is that 
it supports
> standard XSLT engine with full J2EE support. The mapping can be 
prepared and
> tested with any other XSLT engine (I am using standard Java 5) and 
after
> that uploaded to XI. The mapping itself is therefore independent 
from
> developer environment and can be created/tested/finihed everywhere 
even
> without on-line connection to target XI system. IMHO this feature 
is not so
> common in other EDI systems.
> 
> Gabriel Gajdos
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From:    "Pete Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:      [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected]
> Sent:    Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:31:22 -0500
> Subject: RE: [EDI-L] SAP and XI.
> 
> >  
> > 
> > We too may evaluate SAP XI and how it may fits into our edi 
environment
> > with SAP. I would like to confirm from your message that you in 
fact
> > have an existing edi system that is not being replaced by SAP XI 
but in
> > fact you are using XI to integrate your edi system into SAP.
> > 
> > I have been confused as to whether XI can fully replace an edi 
system
> > (mapping, translation and processing of X12 data) or whether it 
is the
> > new interface replacement for IDOCS. I have been lead to believe 
both
> > scenarios are true.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Pete Peters
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:43 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [EDI-L] SAP and XI.
> > 
> > Hello!
> > 
> > We are now implementing EDI solution based on SAP XI mapping
> > capabilities.
> > We are using EDIFACT and VDA messages. SAP XI processes IDOCs 
(inbound
> > and
> > outbound)  in XML format which is much simplier than natural 
(text) IDOC
> > format.
> > For incomming EDI messages we use following scenario:
> > 1. receive EDI
> > 2. Translate EDI to XML (using predefined scheme) 3. Transform 
EDI.xml
> > to IDOC.xml using XSLT processor in SAP XI 4. Send generated 
IDOCs to
> > target R/3 system (in our case we use 2 target
> > systems: mySAP Business Suite and SAP SCM/APO).
> > 
> > For outgouing EDI messages we use following scenario:
> > 1. generate outbound IDOC
> > 2. Transform IDOC to EDI-1.xml using XSLT 3. Next transform EDI-
1.xml to
> > EDI-2.xml (adding some generated fields) 4. Final XSLT 
transformation
> > (output="text") to resulting EDI.
> > 5. Send data to adapter interface running on PC with 
communication
> > interface (ISDN).
> > 
> > There are some commercial adapters (ATOS, Seeburger...) which 
simplifies
> > this process and provides also communication interface. Anyway 
these
> > solutions are expensive and can be substituted by other 
solutions.
> > 
> > For further discussion use direct mail contact.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Gabriel Gajdos
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From:    "Uppaji Kothapalli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To:    [email protected]
> > Sent:    Tue, 28 Feb 2006 13:14:23 -0800 (PST)
> > Subject: [EDI-L] SAP and XI.
> > 
> > > Hello all,
> > > we are migrating from Baan to SAP. We are debating on wheher 
to use 
> > > SAP XI or not.
> > > Could you please throw some light on this  and share any of 
your 
> > > experiences/recommondations about SAP XI.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Also do you know if there is a SAP IDOC readily available for 
EDI 870 
> > > (Order Status Report/ Booking and Backlog).
> > > 
> > > Your response is greatly appreciated.
> > > UK.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > .  
> > Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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