I don't know that I'd call that one better. The biodiesel you buy at the gas pump is a blend of veggie oil and petroleum products. The veggie car is 100% veggie plus its a by product of our fried food loving american lifestyle - USED fryer oil. These government subsidies for biodiesel are driving me nuts because its causing farmers to stop planting things like barley to plant corn which is driving up the price of beer. BEER! Seriously, lets get our priorities straight. ;-)
On 11/7/07, Mike Rawlins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll do you one better. Follow Willie Nelson's lead and you can run your > > old diesel truck on bio-diesel! > > ----------------------------------------- > Michael C. Rawlins, Rawlins EC Consulting > www.rawlinsecconsulting.com > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <ecwiz%40comcast.net> wrote: > > You do realize that you can easily convert your old diesel truck into a > vegie car. > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: "casest97217" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <casest%40hotmail.com>> > > Yes sir. Me and my old diesel truck are just doing our part to try > > and kill off anything left. > > > > --- In [email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>, "Orin Rehorst" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Green Kool-Aid drinker alert! > >> > >> > >> > >> From: [email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto: > [email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>] On > >> > > Behalf Of > > > >> casest97217 > >> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:37 AM > >> To: [email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > >> Subject: [EDI-L] Re: SCAC CODE LIST > >> > >> > >> > >> And to think that I've been neglecting the standards committees in > >> their time of greatest need for the fight on Global Warming; How > >> selfish of me, I feel so ashamed. :) Stephen > >> > >> --- In [email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > >> <mailto:EDI-L%<EDI-L%25> > >> > > 40yahoogroups.com> , "David > > > >> Frenkel" <frenkel@> wrote: > >> > >>> Craig, > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> You might start a letter writing campaign to your elected > >>> > >> officials. The > >> > >>> vast majority of industrial standards in the US are developed and > >>> administered without government financial assistance. The eroding > >>> manufacturing base along with mergers and acquisitions have cut > >>> > >> into the > >> > >>> membership base of many of these standards organizations > >>> > > including > > > >> X12. The > >> > >>> economics of fewer members means higher member fees and higher > >>> > > cost > > > >> to > >> > >>> purchase finished products, i.e. standards. > >>> > >>> Unfortunately e-commerce related standards have not been on the > >>> > >> radar of > >> > >>> policy makers to help the SME that cannot afford to purchase the > >>> > >> standards > >> > >>> you are discussing that will ultimately help them be more > >>> > >> competitive. > >> > >>> > >>> David Frenkel > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _____ > >>> > >>> From: [email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto: > EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > >>> > >> [mailto:[email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto: > EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > >> Behalf Of > >> > >>> Craig Dunham > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 10:14 AM > >>> To: [email protected] <EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto: > EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > >>> Subject: [EDI-L] Re: SCAC CODE LIST > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I, too, am like many in this group that feel that you should > >>> > > defend > > > >>> and support the standards. However, I'm also a realist and know > >>> that too many of these "agencies" realize that they have the > >>> > > public > > > >>> by... well, by the *unmentionable body parts* and impose > >>> astronomical fees and charges to use their "proprietary" data. > >>> these practices of over-charging for the data ends up meaning > >>> > > that > > > >>> far too many people will take far too many short-cuts or just > >>> > >> ignore > >> > >>> the request for the data all-together. > >>> > >>> I had found, previously online, a zip file that contained a > >>> > > fairly > > > >>> current and accurate SCAC code list in Excel format. I downloaded > >>> and have used it once or twice. But what I tell all of My trading > >>> partners, however, when they ask what the SCAC code is and where > >>> > > to > > > >>> get it - I point them directly to 'the other source' for the > >>> > > code - > > > >>> the freight line/trucking company/shipping service - that they > >>> > > are > > > >>> using. Any of these carriers should be aware and know what > >>> > > they're > > > >>> own SCAC is. > >>> > >>> Yes, the NMFTA has control of the data and may even be > >>> > >> so "generous" > >> > >>> as to give one or two codes at no cost... but by charging > >>> > > hundreds > > > >>> and thousands of dollars for controlling this information - > >>> > > that's > > > >>> just highway robbery. > >>> > >>> And I have a bone of contention in the original post - about > >>> > > having > > > >>> the "intelligent conversation" and describing the "benefits from > >>> using the standard correctly".... For any of us in the EDI world - > >>> > > > > > >>> using the standard correctly is simply getting a correct SCAC > >>> > > code > > > >>> in the required segments and documents. Period. As EDI people - > >>> > > it > > > >>> is not our job to see that this vendor or that supplier or this > >>> retailer or that distribution center purchases or subscribes to > >>> > >> what > >> > >>> is - arguably - a horribly overpriced collection of data. That is > >>> left to the person providing the code - and that is on their > >>> conscience.... It is not our place, as EDI professionals, to > >>> dictate another company's business practices and tell them that > >>> > >> they > >> > >>> have to subscribe or purchase such data.... > >>> > >>> Instead, it is the job of our warehouses and distribution > >>> > > centers, > > > >>> of our manufacturers and shippers, of our own internal receiving > >>> > >> and > >> > >>> logistics and routing departments to monitor and enforce the > >>> compliance with NMFTA and their codes. It is their decision to > >>> require only an NMFTA coded carrier for any shipments and to be > >>> valid in their status with their SCAC code. > >>> > >>> If the NMFTA feels such a need to provide data in such an > >>> > >> overpriced > >> > >>> way and some companies feel the need and drive to purchase said > >>> overpriced data, that's fine. But they cannot expect the rest of > >>> the supply chain universe to be the same. I'm fairly sure that > >>> > > the > > > >>> NMFTA makes money off of the creation and maintenance of the SCAC > >>> codes and that UPS and FedEx and Yellow Frieght and all the other > >>> carriers out there pay regular fees to keep that SCAC code in > >>> > > good > > > >>> standing and current. But charging end users of that data - > >>> > > again, > > > >>> the suppliers and retailers - too high of a price to access small > >>> bits of that data is just too much. > >>> > >>> Again, is the SCAC data a good requirement and the standard > >>> important? Yes. But the way that the data is provided - well, > >>> that's up to each of us individually to decide and implement. > >>> > >>> Craig Dunham > >>> EDI Coordinator > >>> Big 5 Sporting Goods. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ... > > Please use the following Message Identifiers as your subject prefix: > <SALES>, <JOBS>, <LIST>, <TECH>, <MISC>, <EVENT>, <OFF-TOPIC> > > > > Job postings are welcome, but for job postings or requests for work: > <JOBS> IS REQUIRED in the subject line as a prefix. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ... 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