I don't know, Bill.  (Sentence works without the comma too.)

 

I have used both tools that I mentioned, EDIFECS SpecBuilder and Foresight
EDISIM.  True, you can use either one to simply pull out the applicable
standards.  But both of them offer extensive opportunities to add comments.
I have used them to add business context.  

 

When I was setting up a custom IG for a contract manufacturer my client used
in Taiwan and it appeared that they were only on hour three of Learn EDI in
24 Hours for Dummys, I included explanations for each and every element,
including the zeroes in ISA01 etc.  I explained that they shouldn't send the
REF if they didn't have a value to place in REF02, and I told them that they
might expect a second N3 segment in the event the ship-to required three
lines to fully describe, but that one would be okay too.  I explained right
in that document that when I sent them a piece of data coded as Commercial
Invoice, they should print that value on the case label and put it on the
paperwork for the customs agent.  I found the tool extremely useful, and
what I did in six weeks I couldn't have done a small percentage of with Word
or Excel in that time.

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill
Laidley
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: FW: [EDI-L] Call for Analogies

 

I'll offer a counterpoint. Yes the software to create implementation guides
is faster, etc. What it does not do is explain your business context, or
your EDI context, or frankly anyone's context. All they do is suck out a
subset of the standards. Not really all that useful.

I do a lot of EDI implementations and my idea of a good implementation guide
is the one that does not require lots of telephone calls and emails to get
clarification. Good implementation guides get written by hand, by someone
who understands both EDI and the business context in which the EDI will be
used. Which usually means using Word or some equivalent.

Bill Laidley

CT Resources

[email protected] <mailto:bill.laidley%40shaw.ca> 

Voice: 604-628-7121

Cell: 604-723-7871

From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
Norton, Karen
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:51 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> 
Subject: [EDI-L] Call for Analogies

Hi everyone.

I want to justify purchasing some software to create implementation
guidelines because we're on a big standardization kick for 2009, but when I
mentioned it to my boss, he said "<groan> More money? Can't you just do them
as Word documents?" At that point, I stopped talking because I knew I could
explain the need but it would take me about 30 min. and several pieces of
paper, and by the time I finish he'll just be ticked off, even if I convince
him.

So I need an analogy. I don't need cost/benefit analysis, or ROI, etc. I
need something relatively short and snappy that will turn on the light bulb
over the head. Something on the order of "Imagine creating that fancy
newsletter when all you have is Notepad -- yes, you can do it, but with lots
of pain and effort and asterisks and pipes and dashes". But with more oomph,
to impart the intricacies of code lists, required vs. optional, segment
descriptions, etc. I had ideas like building a car without design diagrams,
or making a chip without whatever, but I don't know enough about either to
make the analogy work. Ideas?
Thanks for your help.

Karen Norton.
Atmel Corp.

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