OK, so now I have to call the Feds stupid, it won't be the first time. You don't prevent violent crime by asking speeders to prove their citizenship.
And yes, it is racist to base your decision on who to ask for immigration papers on what they look like. You don't really think they're planning to ask someone who looks like, say, my husband, previously described as pasty white, blond haired and blue eyed to prove his citizenship status if, perchance he is pulled over, now do you? And yet, he is an immigrant, in fact, not an immigrant, but a resident alien. While my friend, who is an American citizen, born in this country, whose parents are legal Mexican immigrants, and who has a slight hispanic accent, most assuredly would be, and what can she prove? How many US citizens routinely carry their birth certificates or passports? And doesn't the cost and inconvenience of obtaining such documents constitiute an undue burden? And, to go even further it is a voilation of the spirit of our founding fathers (immigrants all, and traitorous rebels, too). Although the Constitution of the United States does not cite it explicitly, presumption of innocence is widely held to follow from the 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments. It is also morally offensive to me, but that's just my personal opinion. Leah ________________________________ From: Art Douglas <[email protected]> To: Leah Halpin <[email protected]>; "Thompson, Glenn" <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 2:14:44 PM Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <Off Topic> Axway Position in PHX with MFT/B2B experience I understood Matt to be taking a swipe at the AZ law that is designed to be perfectly aligned with US federal law. The law allows state law enforcement to enforce what the Fed is too cowardly to or too disinterested in enforcing, resulting in violent crime that is out of control. The mainstream media and the Holder Justice Department which condones polling place voter intimidation activities and refuses to protect the people of border states from thugs who have no legal right to be there, have cast Arizona’s attempts to regain control of their state as racist, yet there has not been a single racist act committed in enforcing this law. In fact, the law has yet to go into force. Because one people group violates the law more than others, doesn’t make a law racist. Nor, does it make those who are tasked with enforcing the law racists. But insinuating that a state will engage in racist activities without any evidence that they have in fact acted in a racist manner is racist, and that is why I wrote that it was. By the way, have you read about Mexico’s enforcement activities on its southern border? President Felipe Calderon has no right to criticize the US or Arizona, given how he and his government treat those crossing into Mexico from the south without papers. None at all. From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Leah Halpin Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:53 AM To: Thompson, Glenn; [email protected] Subject: Re: [EDI-L] <JOB> Axway Position in PHX with MFT/B2B experience I took it the way Art did at first, and was shocked, then reread and I agree with you Glenn, I think Matt was taking a swipe at the stupidity of AZ legislature. At least, I hope so. The perils of email. Leah ________________________________ From: "Thompson, Glenn" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 1:47:43 PM Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <JOB> Axway Position in PHX with MFT/B2B experience Racism - a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. I don't think Matt was being racist. I think he was saying that the recently enacted law in Arizona is. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Art Douglas Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 1:34 PM To: 'Matt Brown'; 'EDL LIST' Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <JOB> Axway Position in PHX with MFT/B2B experience Those kind of racist comments should not be shared, here or anywhere else. From: [email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Matt Brown Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 6:41 AM To: EDL LIST Subject: RE: [EDI-L] <JOB> Axway Position in PHX with MFT/B2B experience Those with darker skin tones--please remember to bring your passport with you to AZ--or at least drive v-e-r-y carefully. Happy Friday! Matt [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ ... 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