The only caveat for Target is that they keep adding divisions/work flows and several share IGs for certain Transaction Sets. So mapping/testing can get a bit confusing if you don't stay on top of it.
Matt ________________________________ Matthew Brown eBusiness Analyst eBusiness Standards & Practices EasyLink Services International Corporation www.easylink.com [email protected] Direct: 732-658-5419 Fax: 212-999-7375 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason McMahon Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:50 AM To: 'Samantha Scott' Cc: 'Ken Etter'; 'edi list' Subject: RE: [EDI-L] 3rd party testing that wasn't hideous It sounds like they spoil you rotten. I do envy you. Sincerely, Jason McMahon 8079 Village Drive Cincinnati, OH 45242-4315 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] gutausse.weebly com/articles html gutausse.blogspot com <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b _____ From: Samantha Scott [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:45 AM To: Jason McMahon Cc: Ken Etter; edi list Subject: Re: [EDI-L] 3rd party testing that wasn't hideous Being the vendor, I prefer that method. Target does that and they are my favorite. The 850 comes in production, it takes may be 10 minutes to set it up because what they said on their spec is exactly what they send. They don't do anything weird or "creative". They send basically exactly what every other big retailer sends so my generic 850 map handled it with no changes. They test the 856 and 810 parallel with production data and the staff there not only are very knowledgeable they are extremely nice. I've tested with them three times as different vendors and the experience is always the same, excellent. Target is an excellent example of EDI done very well in-house soup to nuts by a big retailer. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Jason McMahon <[email protected]> wrote: Then I am in very good company. On the other hand, I have set up new trading partners who put off testing for weeks so I test with any examples I can find, only to have a production document come through without any warning whatsoever. I then have to call to find out what is going on only to be told that they thought we had completed testing and were ready to go live. So working directly with the trading partner can have its own challenges. One of the nicest compliments I ever received was from Wal-mart who wanted to use us as a beta site for a new document because we were so conscientious about resolving issues when they came up. Sincerely, Jason McMahon 8079 Village Drive Cincinnati, OH 45242-4315 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] gutausse.weebly com/articles html gutausse.blogspot com <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b _____ From: Samantha Scott [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:09 AM To: Jason McMahon Cc: Ken Etter; edi list Subject: Re: [EDI-L] 3rd party testing that wasn't hideous Yes, Sears is at the top of my list of hideous experiences and it is, or was, Inovis that did their testing. I don't know if this is who you dealt with or who they replaced the company you refer to with but my experience was similar. I had to go through it 3 time for three different "flow paths" (interpret that to mean 'road to perdition') and each time I filled out the customer survey as the WORST testing experience EVER. I have to say the Sears owns much of that credit themselves, the testing company just frosted the cake. On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Jason McMahon <[email protected]> wrote: Several years ago I had to test documents with Sears so they arranged for a third party to do the testing. It was one of the worst testing organizations I had ever worked with, but to appease Sears I completed testing with them. When we were done they said they would notify Sears and Sears would then get back to me. A week or so later Sears called me to ask if I had completed testing with this third party and I said that they were going to inform you that we were ready to go live. The lady at Sears was so upset after talking with them that she personally supervised another test and we went live two days later. Soon after that Sears fired the company and I only worked with Sears directly after that. Sincerely, Jason McMahon 8079 Village Drive Cincinnati, OH 45242-4315 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] gutausse.weebly com/articles html gutausse.blogspot com <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-mcmahon/11/743/51b _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Etter Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:50 AM To: Samantha Scott; edi list Subject: Re: [EDI-L] 3rd party testing that wasn't hideous Aren't you referring to the "Pay for the abuse" industry, you know those third party testing companies...?? It is Friday... Ken [email protected] <mailto:edispec%40yahoo.com> ________________________________ From: Samantha Scott <[email protected] <mailto:mossmuncher%40gmail.com> > To: edi list <[email protected] <mailto:EDI-L%40yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 10:29:02 AM Subject: [EDI-L] 3rd party testing that wasn't hideous Yes, this is me saying that. You may know how much I personally revile 3rd party testing as being a waste of money, an abuse of vendors (making us pay for the customer's EDI program) and frequently a waste of time because they systems are faulty, give poor results, pass things in testing they reject in production, reject things that are correct and are manned by people who seem to understand little about the business they serve or more than the most rudimentary aspects of EDI. We were directed to use DirectEDI to test with Veterans Canteen service and for a change: I didn't have to pay for the torture (that was truly novel) Their automated system actually worked all the way through and was correct (unlike every single other 3rd party test company I've been subjected to) It still lacks that communication with the business which is the #1 failing of all 3rd party relationships but, all in all, I didn't hate it nearly as much as I usually do. Huzzah! 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