I have to agree with Dave, if immediate response and action is key, then keep 
it 
in house.  I am sure you have gotten tons of sales people responding to you by 
now, you have proposed a very lucrative sale.

It sounds like you have a very good understanding of your system.  I suggest 
you 
put together an RFQ which includes everything you must have, all the things 
you'd like to have and top it off with your wish list.  Also, this is a good 
time to think about the things that don't work so well or that give you pain 
and 
have the sales people tell you how they can eliminate your current problems 
(without causing different ones, of course).

Make sure you or someone with a similar or better knowledge of your existing 
system is in on all the demos and request demo copies to "play with".  Never, 
never take "yes it can do that, but I can't tell you how" for an answer.  Also, 
understand that "we can meet that need" does not mean the product will do what 
you need/want out of the box.  At best, it will mean some clearly documented 
and 
easily integrated and understood augmentation of the product.  At worst, you'll 
get some kludged together, expensive piece of junk that won't do anything close 
to what you need.

Make certain you understand what you're being told in the demo and do not be 
afraid to ask for details.  The sales person probably won't be able to give you 
detailed answers but if they can't offer you a contact who can or they don't 
get 
back to you with an answer quickly, then be very skeptical of everything they 
say.

Oh, and make sure that list of "must haves" includes things that you would 
assume every decent translator would have, like a user friendly TP set up 
interface, the ability to create a syntactically correct FA, reconcile and 
report on FA's received/missed and error reporting.  Insist on seeing an error 
report and make the demonstrator show you how to track the error back to the 
ERP/sender document.   You would be surprised at some major products that 
either 
don't offer one or more of these things or that charge extra for them.

Finally, if this seems a bit overwhelming, there are a number of people on this 
list who would be happy to give you more or less unbiased assistance in 
reviewing your system, creating an RFQ and dealing with vendors.  Having worked 
on a single, homegrown system for 15 years, purchasing something new will be 
daunting and you may be tempted to believe the sales people.  Don't.

Good Luck,
Leah







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From: Dave Records <[email protected]>
To: karnaf62 <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 9:51:36 PM
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] What should I do with our vast EDI system?

Well, I think your last next to last line says it all!  Fast and reliable 
response!  In my experience, the only way to get that is to keep it in house 
and 
the fact that you recognize the criticality of EDI to your business would also 
point to that.  You will have to spend some money to update your translator, 
but 
there are many good ones.  I'm very familiar with Gentran for UNIX and Windows 
and prefer the UNIX for the functionality it brings.  I saw something about it 
being available on LINUX but have not checked that out myself.  There are also 
other good options for translators that maybe less expensive, such as SoftShare 
- or whatever it is now.  I've contracted at companies where it was outsourced 
and at companies where we did it in house and the ability to respond swiftly 
and 
accurately was at least 3 to 5 times better at in house facilities as opposed 
to 
outsourced.  At the companies who outsourced, I was mainly a project manager 
facilitating between the ERP developers (overseas, so a time differential) and 
the EDI developers.  It sometimes would take weeks to get changes made, and 
months to implement a new customer or supplier!  Very frustrating.  There is 
one 
other option I've never explored, but Boomi Software offers a "Cloud" service 
where I believe you still do all the work, but the translator is hosted on 
their 
systems.  When I worked with the product initially, it was installed on a local 
machine and I thought it was great.  Approaching the idea of Sterling 
Integrator, but much easier and less resource intensive.  I was disappointed to 
hear they did away with the freestanding product, but still considered it a 
good 
product.  The bottom line in my opinion is that you would lose control of a 
very 
important piece of your business ifyou outsourced it as you would be bound by 
other's work loads and priorities which you would have no control over.

Good Luck!

Dave Records










On Mar 27, 2011, at 6:43 PM, karnaf62 wrote:

> We have an in-house EDI server, EDI software, 100s of trading partners, 15 
>different EDI transactions, X12 and XML, various custom-files exchanged using 
>EDI between several in-house systems and much more. 
>
> 
> Since we are a "Vendor" and our Trading Partners are "The Customer", 
> according 
>to EDI de-facto rules, we have a custom map for each TP/Transaction.
> 
> This vast system is a product of my hard work for over 15 years at my company 
.
> 
> Everything is working very well, self supported, no issues.
> 
> But(!), nothing will stay the same for ever... including myself (I moving to 
> a 
>new role in the company) and our aging EDI system that will have to be 
>replaced 
>by new software (i.e. throw away all the current maps and setups and write 
>them 
>from scratch).
> 
> We are not opposed to outsourcing, especially with EDI which, in general, 
>requires a one-time setup for each interchange and not much of maintenance 
>after 
>that.
> 
> But, because we are so dependent on EDI with our customers (EDI brings more 
>than 90% of our sales) we want costs to be down, and fast response to changes 
>and new setups. 
>
> 
> What would you recommend?
> 
> 



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