Leah

SCAC codes can be obtained from the National Motor Freight Traffic
Association (NMFTA.org).  SCAC's are 2 to 4 alpha character codes.  For
example a two character code would be the Norfolk Southern RR (NS).  An
example of a four character code would be Estes Express (EXLA).  Most if not
all containers have a SCAC on them.  They are used primarily to identify
transportation carriers.

Also, if you have an X12 standards book handy, you would see that data
element (DE) 140 points to code source 17.  If you look at code source 17
you will see that it indeed points to the NMFTA as the maintainer of the
outside code list.  I do note that the URL is incorrect in the code source
and I will submit a DM to fix that.

Not sure what you mean when you say that DE 140 is not truly and identifier
in the usual sense.  Again, if you open your X12 standards book you will
find in section 3.5.1.3 of X12.6 (Application Control Structure) that an ID
type is "An identifier data element always contains a unique value from a
single, predefined list of values that is maintained by ASC X12 or some
other body recognized by ASC X12 and identified by a reference in Appendix A
of X12.3 Data Element Dictionary."  So DE 140 is truly an "identifier".

That said, Chris, why would you start with the 990?  The 990 is only used in
response to a load tender (204).  Without the 204 the 990 is useless.

Doug

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-----Original Message-----
From: Leah Halpin [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 8:58 AM
To: Chris Johnson; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EDI-L] 5030 990 B1 query




This is interesting.  I am unfamiliar with this particular transaction, but
very familiar with X12.  The B101 is defined as Standard Carrier Alpha Code
(more commonly and redundantly SCAC code).  This is not truly an
"identifier" in the usual sense with ANSI X12 as it's not their code.
Usually ID's of this type will refer to an outside list of codes maintained
by another authority.  SCAC codes are indeed such codes.  I've never seen
one that wasn't 4 characters and I've never seen one with numbers, (note the
ALPHA in SCAC).  Doesn't mean there isn't a longer or shorter one or that
one might not have numbers.

However, 6 is going to violate the X12 standard.  So, creative is a nice
word for it.  I'd suggest asking them WTH?  Nicely, of course.

Happy almost Friday.
Leah

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From: Chris Johnson < [email protected]
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Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:32 AM
Subject: [EDI-L] 5030 990 B1 query



X12 is little used in the UK, and I consequently have little experience
of it. I am currently mapping a 5030 990 transaction (it seemed like an
easy one to start with). The client sample messages have a six character
alphanumeric as the first field of the B1 segment. According to my
specifications this is a 140 data element which should be ID,2,4.

Are my specifications incorrect, or is the client being creative?

Regards
Chris
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