On Aug 20, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Jordan Justen <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Andrew Fish <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Aug 20, 2013, at 3:41 PM, Jordan Justen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 09:45 -0700, Andrew Fish wrote:
>>>> The current BaseTools process does not seem to work for any one
>>>> who does not have a @intel.com email address, and that seems like
>>>> a broken thing for an open source project.
>>> 
>>> What difference does the @intel.com email address make with regards
>>> to this? I've been having to use BaseTools from trunk rather than
>>> edk2/BaseTools for nearly a year to have GCC 4.7 support.
>> 
>> Have you been nagging the mailing list or @intel.com?
> 
> Mailing list
> 
>>> Now, apparently you have to have an @intel.com email address to
>>> participate in code reviews for most contributions from Intel,
>>> but that is another matter. :)
>> 
>> Or to know any information about the schedule roadmap or plans.....
>> Syncs from the BaseTools project just see to fall randomly from the
>> sky based on some priority not related to some targets,  processors
>> or toolchains....
> 
> I would like to think that working together with the community (ie,
> day-to-day code reviews) would lead to better communication of the
> other aspects of the project.
> 
>>> Another question I have relates to BaseTools/Bin/Win32.
>>> Why is this not an extra download rather than part of the *source*
>>> tree?
>> 
>> Well there is not a good scheme to pull what you want....
>> For Visual Studio development folks generally use the frozen
>> Python and it is much easier to just pull the binary.
> 
> I know the freeze thing is a pain, which is why I say make a separate
> binary release of the tools to plop down in BaseTools/Bin/Win32. Like
> today, but not directly in the source tree.
> 
> It seems a bit patronizing to Windows developers to assume they need
> extra pampering.
> ...To assume that they can't be bothered to download and unzip a
> binary release of the BaseTools for their platform.
> 

Well at the time most developers were using Windows and this was done just for 
ease of use. One download is easier than multiple. 

Things have change quite a lot since then, and the scheme has not really kept 
up with the times.... I'm not working on OVMF, but when I pull the edk2 tree I 
get a copy. So I think this is a  more general issue. If we had a more platform 
centric way to pull a tree would could probably leverage it to solve this issue 
too.  

Thanks,

Andrew Fish


> -Jordan


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