I understand better.  My concern is if there's some sort of ongoing headcount 
required to maintain Bugzilla.  As was stated before, if there's a maintenance 
requirement is that a hard requirement? Or can the software/system run 
autonomously for long periods of time without human intervention*.

*I have no direct experience administering Bugzilla, just using it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 5:26 PM
To: Mangefeste, Tony <[email protected]>
Cc: Laszlo Ersek <[email protected]>; Ard Biesheuvel 
<[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [edk2] Task: Issue Tracking System for Tianocore

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:59:52AM +0000, Mangefeste, Tony wrote:
> Do you have funding estimates you would share with me from a Linaro 
> perspective?  Of course, it doesn't have to be shared out in this 
> context, but if you have such data it'd be interesting to compare our 
> resources with what is required to run Bugzilla.

Funding estimates for using Bugzilla? I mean, I could ask but I think the 
answer would basically be "a machine running Linux".

I would expect the ticket load for Tianocore to be an order of magnitude below 
what Linaro is seeing (across toolchains, Android, kernel, OpenEmbedded, ...), 
and a couple of orders of magnitude below what Red Hat are seeing.

/
    Leif

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 4:53 PM
> To: Laszlo Ersek <[email protected]>
> Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <[email protected]>; Mangefeste, Tony 
> <[email protected]>; [email protected] 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [edk2] Task: Issue Tracking System for Tianocore
> 
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:08:16AM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > On 02/10/16 23:59, Mangefeste, Tony wrote:
> > > I've gone down the track of using Bugzilla as well.  Aside from 
> > > the massive list of pros listed below, gathering any other 
> > > preference is welcomed.  I have used Bugzilla, but never been a 
> > > maintainer on it.
> > > We do have some resources lined up for management of Bugzilla, if 
> > > needed, so that's not a barrier.  Of course, the devil's in the 
> > > details.
> > > 
> > > So in short, Bugzilla is top of my mind right now.  I'm looking at 
> > > other OSS projects and seeing what they use.  If anyone here sees 
> > > one not listed below or has an opinion that they care to express 
> > > please do so.  On the mobility view, I'll try to play around with 
> > > that and see how it looks on my mobile devices.
> > > 
> > > Welcome to real-time decision making, thought process spewing.
> > 
> > I recall that Linaro uses JIRA:
> > https://cards.linaro.org/
> 
> Retired.
> 
> > Oh wait, there seems to be a new URL (still JIRA):
> > https://projects.linaro.org
> 
> Yup.
> 
> > I am (was?) subscribed to a minimal set of CARDs only, in the first 
> > system; I don't have any real experience with JIRA. Ard, Leif, can 
> > you please share your thoughts?
> 
> We use Jira for project management.
> https://bugs.linaro.org/ is bugzilla.
> 
> Strongly support bugzilla over both Jira and the github one.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Leif
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