On 2016-07-31 16:52:23, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> Jordan,
> 
> UEFI Drivers distributed as binaries do not need depex sections.
> 
> PI modules distributed as binaries do require a .depex binary.
> 

They may require a depex, but, as mentioned below, they can also add
it directly in the .fdf. As it stands, apparently we have 1 .depex
file in the tree, and it is unused.

Aside from this, under what conditions would we take such binaries
into the EDK II tree? Today we have the ShellPkg and FatPkg binaries
in the EDK II tree, but we recently discussed removing even those.

For an open source project, I think it is best to not have pre-built
binaries, unless there is some very compelling reason. Previously
there was some license funniness on FatPkg, but now that is gone. If
it took an hour to build FatPkg, then that might also be something to
discuss. :)

I don't think adding the .gitattributes is really a problem, aside
from the fact that it implies that we might actually have a reason to
add a .depex file to the source tree.

-Jordan

> So I would recommend .depex binary files be treated the same as 
> binary .efi files by GIT.  So it does sound like we need some
> minor updates to GIT attributes.
> 
> If we have an example of a binary module that is providing more
> binary leaf sections than are actually required and/or used, then
> yes, the binary module should be cleaned up to remove the unused
> content.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mike
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justen, Jordan L
> > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2016 3:58 PM
> > To: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindh...@linaro.org>; Tim Lewis 
> > <tim.le...@insyde.com>
> > Cc: Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com>; Kinney, Michael D 
> > <michael.d.kin...@intel.com>;
> > edk2-de...@ml01.01.org <edk2-devel@lists.01.org>; Andrew Fish 
> > <af...@apple.com>
> > Subject: Re: [edk2] [PATCH] add top-level .gitattributes file, dealing with 
> > .depex
> > 
> > On 2016-07-30 11:33:43, Leif Lindholm wrote:
> > > Hi Tim,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the warning, and investigation.
> > >
> > > Does this mean that you think we should ban the inclusion of .depex
> > > files in EDK2, including future platform trees?
> > 
> > I don't know about banning it, but at least we could wait for someone
> > to make a reasonable argument why they are needed.
> > 
> > Even for binary only modules, it looks like the fdf method outlined
> > below is preferable to a pre-built .depex.
> > 
> > If (at a future point) the reason for using a .depex is to support a
> > binary only module in a supposedly open platform under EDK II, then I
> > guess we can decide if that is a good idea at that point.
> > 
> > Should we delete this one unused .depex from the tree?
> > 
> > -Jordan
> > 
> > > (If not, this patch is
> > > still needed for git to work predictably with these files.)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Leif
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 05:12:49PM +0000, Tim Lewis wrote:
> > > > It appears that this file is not actually used. It is only
> > > > referenced in the [Rule.Common.UEFI_DRIVER.NATIVE_BINARY] rule in
> > > > PlatformPkg.fdf. A little further research shows that an alternate
> > > > method was used for the actual GOP binary (see below). A grep of the
> > > > entire tree shows that no one uses this rule NATIVE_BINARY. So it
> > > > looks like it can just be cut out.
> > > >
> > > > BTW, the downside of the method used for the binary version of the
> > > > GOP driver, is that those drivers cannot use PCDs, since the PCD
> > > > database is created based on references in the .inf. GOP works
> > > > because it is pure UEFI and (therefore) doesn't use PCDs.
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > FILE DRIVER = FF0C8745-3270-4439-B74F-3E45F8C77064 {
> > > >   SECTION DXE_DEPEX_EXP = {gPlatformGOPPolicyGuid}
> > > >   SECTION PE32 =
> > Vlv2MiscBinariesPkg/GOP/7.2.1011/RELEASE_VS2008x86/$(DXE_ARCHITECTURE)/IntelGopDriver.e
> > fi
> > > >   SECTION UI = "IntelGopDriver"
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-boun...@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of 
> > > > Leif
> > Lindholm
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 9:45 AM
> > > > To: Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com>
> > > > Cc: michael.d.kin...@intel.com; Jordan Justen 
> > > > <jordan.l.jus...@intel.com>; edk2-
> > de...@ml01.01.org; Andrew Fish <af...@apple.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [edk2] [PATCH] add top-level .gitattributes file, dealing 
> > > > with .depex
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 05:03:13PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > > > > On 07/07/16 16:24, Leif Lindholm wrote:
> > > > > > Git tends to see .depex files as text, causing hideous patches being
> > > > > > generated (and breaking PatchCheck.py).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Add a .gitattributes file instructing git to treat them as binary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Contributed-under: TianoCore Contribution Agreement 1.0
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindh...@linaro.org>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  .gitattributes | 1 +
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> > > > > >  create mode 100644 .gitattributes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/.gitattributes b/.gitattributes new file mode 100644
> > > > > > index 0000000..2d8a45b
> > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > +++ b/.gitattributes
> > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1 @@
> > > > > > +*.depex binary
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What generates .depex files? I've never seen any.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, unless you add .depex files with "git add" to the set of tracked
> > > > > files, no patches / diffs should cover them. What am I missing? :)
> > > > >
> > > > > ... Hm, after
> > > > >
> > > > > $ find . -iname "*.depex"
> > > > >
> > > > > I see .depex files in Build/ (which should be ignored altogether), and
> > > > >
> > > > > ./Vlv2TbltDevicePkg/IntelGopDepex/IntelGopDriver.depex
> > > > >
> > > > > Why does that file exist in the tree? Let me see... git log says 
> > > > > nothing relevant
> > (the file dates back to commit 3cbfba02fef9, "Upload BSD-licensed 
> > Vlv2TbltDevicePkg and
> > Vlv2DeviceRefCodePkg to").
> > > > >
> > > > > Grepping the tree for the filename itself leads to:
> > > > >
> > > > > Vlv2TbltDevicePkg/PlatformPkg.fdf:    DXE_DEPEX DXE_DEPEX Optional
> > $(WORKSPACE)/$(PLATFORM_PACKAGE)/IntelGopDepex/IntelGopDriver.depex
> > > > > Vlv2TbltDevicePkg/PlatformPkgGcc.fdf:    DXE_DEPEX DXE_DEPEX Optional
> > $(WORKSPACE)/$(PLATFORM_PACKAGE)/IntelGopDepex/IntelGopDriver.depex
> > > > >
> > > > > Do these rules exist to override the DEPEX sections of binary-only 
> > > > > modules? If
> > so: that's horrible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, given that edk2 contains at least one .depex file, and your 
> > > > > patch is
> > correct according to 
> > <https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Customizing-Git-Git-Attributes>:
> > > > >
> > > > > Reviewed-by: Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > I had hoped for comments from someone else on cc, since we don't have 
> > > > any
> > Maintainers.txt entry for the top level directory :)
> > > >
> > > > But if I don't hear anything before Monday, I'll push it then.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Leif
> > > >
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