> On Oct 5, 2016, at 1:58 PM, Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> On 10/05/16 22:44, Tim Lewis wrote:
>> Jaben --
>> 
>> In which cases would you have the Shell protocol present and not have the 
>> Unicode Collation protocol?
> 
> That's exactly the question!
> 
> According to the spec, at least if the system cannot boot from a disk
> device, then the collation protocol need not be present.
> 
>> By my count, the Shell itself cannot function without it (see 
>> ProcessCommandLine()). 
> 
> In which case though I don't understand why Daniil experiences this
> change (= commit 583448b441650) as a regression on Juno. If the shell
> couldn't function without the collation protocol even before commit
> 583448b441650, then the shell must never have run on Juno -- because it
> appears to lack collation -- and then this change cannot be a regression.
> 

Looks like he has a DXE Driver that consume the ShellLib. 

Thanks,

Andrew Fish

> Thanks
> Laszlo
> 
> 
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: edk2-devel [mailto:edk2-devel-boun...@lists.01.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Carsey, Jaben
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 1:35 PM
>> To: Shah, Tapan <tapands...@hpe.com>; Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com>; 
>> Andrew Fish <af...@apple.com>; Daniil Egranov <daniil.egra...@arm.com>
>> Cc: Carsey, Jaben <jaben.car...@intel.com>; edk2-devel-01 
>> <edk2-de...@ml01.01.org>; Leif Lindholm <leif.lindh...@arm.com>
>> Subject: Re: [edk2] Assert in ShellPkg with latest tianocore edk2 source on 
>> the Reference Platform
>> 
>> That should work.  We also need to initialize the variable to NULL in the 
>> constructor.
>> 
>> Do we need to be case insensitive for this?  Can we use memcmp instead of 
>> the prototol?
>> 
>> -Jaben
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Shah, Tapan [mailto:tapands...@hpe.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 1:25 PM
>>> To: Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com>; Andrew Fish <af...@apple.com>; 
>>> Daniil Egranov <daniil.egra...@arm.com>
>>> Cc: Carsey, Jaben <jaben.car...@intel.com>; edk2-devel-01 <edk2- 
>>> de...@ml01.01.org>; Leif Lindholm <leif.lindh...@arm.com>
>>> Subject: RE: [edk2] Assert in ShellPkg with latest tianocore edk2 
>>> source on the Reference Platform
>>> Importance: High
>>> 
>>> How about moving protocol locate from constructor to the actual 
>>> function level and returning an error if it fails to locate (See attached 
>>> patch file).
>>> 
>>> Tapan
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Laszlo Ersek [mailto:ler...@redhat.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2016 3:18 PM
>>> To: Andrew Fish <af...@apple.com>; Daniil Egranov 
>>> <daniil.egra...@arm.com>
>>> Cc: Carsey, Jaben <jaben.car...@intel.com>; edk2-devel-01 <edk2- 
>>> de...@ml01.01.org>; Leif Lindholm <leif.lindh...@arm.com>; Shah, Tapan 
>>> <tapands...@hpe.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [edk2] Assert in ShellPkg with latest tianocore edk2 
>>> source on the Reference Platform
>>> 
>>> On 10/05/16 21:48, Andrew Fish wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 5, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Daniil Egranov 
>>>>> <daniil.egra...@arm.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have the same ASSERT issue on Juno platform even the 
>>>>> EnglishDxe.inf is
>>> included to the platform build. If UefiShellLib has such dependency on 
>>> the protocol then according to EDKII Module Writer's Guide you need to 
>>> specify the dependency on protocol in the module .inf to ensure the 
>>> drivers proper load sequence.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 8.6 Dependency Expressions
>>>>> A dependency expression specifies the protocols that the DXE driver 
>>>>> requires to execute. In EDK II, it is specified in the [Depex] 
>>>>> section of INF
>>> file.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The Dependency Expression is for DXE Drivers that are dispatched by 
>>>> the
>>> DXE Core. A UEFI Driver from an option ROM or an Application does not 
>>> get dispatched by the dispatch and the Depex will not help. The Depex 
>>> ends up being a section in the FV and it has nothing to do with the 
>>> PE/COFF image of the an application or option ROM.
>>>> 
>>>> IMHO the shell should try as hard as possible to function and should 
>>>> not
>>> ASSERT if some newer Protocol is missing.
>>> 
>>> (Background: commit 583448b441650.)
>>> 
>>> In this specific case, the protocol dependency seems possible to eliminate:
>>> 
>>> - Library/UefiShellDebug1CommandsLib/UefiShellDebug1CommandsLib.c
>>> includes the CharToUpper() function, which is minimal -- could even be 
>>> copied or moved over -- and can translate the ASCII subset of UCS-2,
>>> 
>>> - once the ASCII characters of the input string have been translated 
>>> to upper case, the result could be searched for / compared against L"NULL"
>>> using BaseLib.h APIs.
>>> 
>>> (Given that L"NULL" only contains characters from the ASCII subset, it 
>>> suffices to upper-case ASCII chars in the input string. No non-ASCII 
>>> character in the BMP can translate to ASCII N/U/L via upcasing, even 
>>> with the real collation protocol (I trust), and no other ASCII 
>>> characters than n/u/l will translate to N/U/L. This means that we 
>>> won't miss an instance of NULL because we didn't upcate it (because it 
>>> was non-ascii), and it also means we won't mistakenly match something 
>>> non-NULL as NULL.)
>>> 
>>> Just my two cents.
>>> 
>>> Laszlo
>> 
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