Leif,

That makes sense to me.  I will update the Readme.md to cover
The edk2-platforms/master branch.

If a platform does not want to be maintained on master any 
longer, it could be moved to a stable-* branch against the most 
recent UDK20xx branch of edk2.

Once a platform is no longer used or maintained at all, then 
archiving sounds appropriate.

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindh...@linaro.org]
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 5:59 AM
> To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kin...@intel.com>
> Cc: Andrew Fish (af...@apple.com) <af...@apple.com>; edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> Subject: Re: [edk2] [RFC V2] EDK2 Platform Proposal
> 
> So, I don't actually disagree with what you're saying, but I think we
> already know that we are looking for different things out of this
> repository :)
> 
> This is not a problem, but I do want us to be able to agree on a
> wording that works for both of our use-cases.
> 
> I currently have no interest in the stable-* branches, but I
> completely understand why you need them.
> 
> I want _lots_ of platforms in master, but I want all of the platforms
> in master to be ones that have an active maintainer - and as such will
> be fixed up as required when core changes happen. To me, master should
> be drinking from the fire hose. But any platforms in master that are
> not being kept functional should be moved out and archived.
> 
> If we cannot agree on the meaning of master, then I would request
> another specific branch to fill the function I describe above.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Leif
> 
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 07:25:19AM +0000, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> > Leif,
> >
> > I could see edk2-platforms/master being the platform branch that
> > contains the set of platforms that are synced with edk2/master and
> > are required to be tested when changes are made to edk2/master.
> > Or at least guaranteed to be tested when a stable release of
> > edk2/master is made.
> >
> > Similar to what we expect for the platforms in edk2/master such
> > as OvmfPkg, EmulatorPkg, and Nt32Pkg.
> >
> > Given that not everyone would have access to platform targets to
> > run tests, the minimum requirement could be build tests.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kinney, Michael D
> > > Sent: Friday, October 14, 2016 12:15 AM
> > > To: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindh...@linaro.org>; Andrew Fish 
> > > (af...@apple.com)
> > > <af...@apple.com>; Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kin...@intel.com>
> > > Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> > > Subject: RE: [edk2] [RFC V2] EDK2 Platform Proposal
> > >
> > > Leif and Andrew,
> > >
> > > I have added the content of this proposal to a new Readme.md file in
> > > the edk2-platforms/about branch and removed the old README file.
> > >
> > >   https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms/tree/about
> > >
> > > I have also added a template at the bottom of the process description
> > > for a Readme.md that describes multiple platforms with links to a
> > > Readme.md in each platform specific subdirectory.
> > >
> > > I have also addressed the all the feedback from Leif except for
> > > adding platforms to edk2-platforms/master.  I think platforms
> > > should start in an edk2-platforms/devel-* branch and when they
> > > become stable move to an edk2-platforms/stable-* branch.  Stable
> > > branches may support multiple platform.
> > >
> > > Using this model, there would not be an edk2-platforms/master
> > > branch.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindh...@linaro.org]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:23 PM
> > > > To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kin...@intel.com>
> > > > Cc: edk2-devel@lists.01.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [edk2] [RFC V2] EDK2 Platform Proposal
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike,
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 08:54:50PM +0000, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the V2 version of the proposal for the edk2-platforms repo.
> > > >
> > > > I'm happy with the proposal in this state, but have a few suggested
> > > > updates (mostly to clarify that, long term, we expect most platforms
> > > > to exist in master) and a small suggested addition.
> > > >
> > > > > Changes from V1:
> > > > >
> > > > > ================
> > > > >
> > > > > * edk2-platform is not a fork of edk2.
> > > > >
> > > > > * edk2-platforms branches contain CPU, Chipset, SoC, and platform 
> > > > > specific
> > > > >
> > > > >   packages
> > > > >
> > > > > * edk2-plaforms/master contains all open platforms that are synced 
> > > > > with
> > > > >
> > > > >   edk2/master.
> > > > >
> > > > > * Each edk2-platforms branch may support many platforms (not just one)
> > > > >
> > > > > * Use PACKAGES_PATH to do builds using packages from multiple 
> > > > > repositories
> > > > >
> > > > > * Update edk2-platforms branch naming to clearly identify platforms 
> > > > > that
> > > > >
> > > > >   are considered stable and platforms that are under active 
> > > > > development.
> > > > >
> > > > > * edk2 developers may be required to verify platforms in 
> > > > > edk2-platforms
> > > > >
> > > > >   builds as part of test criteria.  Especially platforms that are 
> > > > > intended
> > > > >
> > > > >   to be used with edk2/master in edk2-platforms/stable-* branches.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > =================
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Similar to edk2-staging, we also have a need to manage platforms
> > > > >
> > > > > that have been ported to edk2.  Jordan has created a repository
> > > > >
> > > > > called edk2-platforms and has created a branch for the
> > > > >
> > > > > minnowboard-max that uses a validated release of the UDK 2015 for
> > > > >
> > > > > the dependent packages:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms/tree/minnowboard-max-udk2015
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Instead of creating a branch per feature in edk2-staging, the
> > > > >
> > > > > proposal is to create a branch per platform or set of platforms
> > > > >
> > > > > in edk2-platforms.  The maintainer(s) that create and support a
> > > > >
> > > > > platform branch can decide if the platform uses edk2/master for
> > > > >
> > > > > dependent packages, or uses a stable release of the edk2 for dependent
> > > > >
> > > > > packages.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This proposal provides an area for platform development so we can
> > > > >
> > > > > minimize the number of platforms that are included in edk2/master.
> > > > >
> > > > > It is important to keep some platforms in edk2/master so we can use
> > > > >
> > > > > those platforms to validate features in non-platform packages in
> > > > >
> > > > > edk2/master.  If a new platform does not add feature coverage to
> > > > >
> > > > > edk2/master, then an edk2-platforms branch would be recommended.
> > > >
> > > > Suggest: ", then edk2-platforms would be recommended.".
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Please review the proposal below for edk2-platforms.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If this proposal is accepted, then a review of the platforms in
> > > > >
> > > > > edk2/master can be done to see if any of them should be moved to
> > > > >
> > > > > branches in edk2-platforms.
> > > >
> > > > Suggest: "should be moved to edk2-platforms.".
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > <proposal>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Problem statement
> > > > >
> > > > > =================
> > > > >
> > > > > Need place on tianocore.org where platforms can be maintained by the
> > > > >
> > > > > EDK II community.  This serves several purposes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > * Encourage more platforms sources to be shared earlier in the
> > > > >
> > > > >   development process
> > > > >
> > > > > * Allow platform sources to be shared that may not yet meet all edk2
> > > > >
> > > > >   required quality criteria
> > > > >
> > > > > * Allow platform source to be shared so the EDK II community may
> > > > >
> > > > >   choose to help finish and validate
> > > > >
> > > > > * Allow more platforms to be used as part of the edk2 validation and
> > > > >
> > > > >   release cycle.
> > > > >
> > > > > * Not intended to be used for bug fixes.
> > > >
> > > > Does this final point still apply, now we're going to be using
> > > > PACKAGES_PATH rather than keep rebasing on top of edk2/master?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Proposal
> > > > >
> > > > > ========
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) Create a new repo called edk2-platforms
> > > > >
> > > > >     a) The default branch edk2-platforms/master contains all open
> > > > >
> > > > >        platforms that are actively validated against the packages
> > > > >
> > > > >        in edk2/master.
> > > > >
> > > > >     b) The intent is for packages in edk2-platforms to be CPU, 
> > > > > Chipset,
> > > > >
> > > > >        SoC, or platform specific.  Drivers that are CPU arch and 
> > > > > platform
> > > > >
> > > > >        agnostic should be put into the edk2 repo.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) edk2-platforms discussions use the edk2-devel mailing list
> > > > >
> > > > >    for design/patch/test using the following style for discussion
> > > > >
> > > > >    of a platform branch in edk2-platforms repo.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      [platforms/branch]: Subject
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) All commits to edk2-platforms must follow same rules use for
> > > > >
> > > > >    commits to edk2 (e.g. Tiano Contributor's Agreement)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) Process to add a new branch to edk2-platforms
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      a) Maintainer sends patch email to edk2-devel mailing list
> > > > >
> > > > >         announcing the creation of a new branch in edk2-platforms
> > > > >
> > > > >         with Readme.MD.  Readme.MD must be in root of branch with
> > > > >
> > > > >         summary, owners, status, build instructions, target update
> > > > >
> > > > >         instructions, OS compatibility, known issues/limitations,
> > > > >
> > > > >         links to related materials, and anything else a developer
> > > > >
> > > > >         needs to use platform(s) in that branch.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     b) Readme.MD must provide the PACKAGES_PATH setting required to
> > > > >
> > > > >         build along with the branch names of other repos that platform
> > > > >
> > > > >         requires.  This allows a platform developer(s) to use packages
> > > > >
> > > > >         from edk2/master or to use packages from a validates UDK 
> > > > > release
> > > >
> > > > 'validates' -> 'validated'
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >         (e.g. edk2/UDK2015).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      c) Maintainer creates branch with Readme.MD in edk2-platforms
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      d) An edk2-platforms branch for platforms under developer use the
> > > >
> > > > 'under development'?
> > > >
> > > > >         following branch naming convention:
> > > > >
> > > > >           edk2-platforms/devel-*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      e) An edk2-platforms branch for stable platforms use the 
> > > > > following
> > > > >
> > > > >         branch naming convention:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           edk2-platforms/stable-*
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do we need a:
> > > > ---
> > > > X) Process to add platform to master?
> > > >    a) Maintainer ensures any code conflicts are resolved and merged to
> > > >       edk2-platforms/master.
> > > >
> > > >    b) Maintainer sends email request to edk2-devel mailing list
> > > >       announcing intent to integrate a devel-* branch into master.
> > > >
> > > >    c) Platform is reviewed for maturity, and merged to master when
> > > >       ready.
> > > >
> > > > How would we do about Readme.MD on master?
> > > > Should it be something added to a common Readme.MD for all platforms
> > > > (sounds like it would expload), or should we simply make it move to
> > > > the platform-specific directory?
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > > 5) Process to update sources in edk2-platforms branch
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      a) Commit message subject format:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           [platforms/branch PATCH]: Package/Module: Subject
> > > >
> > > > Apologies for the late bikeshedding, but could we do this:
> > > > [PATCH][platforms/branch]
> > > > instead?
> > > > To reduce command line tedium with git format-patch.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      b) Directly commit changes to branch or if community review is 
> > > > > desired,
> > > > >
> > > > >         use edk2-devel review process.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 7) Process to remove an edk2-platforms branch
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      a) Stewards may periodically review of branches in edk2-platforms
> > > > >
> > > > >         (once a quarter?)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      b) If no activity on a branch for extended period of time and 
> > > > > the branch
> > > > >
> > > > >         is not being maintained and is no longer functional then 
> > > > > stewards
> > > > >
> > > > >         send email to edk2-devel to request deletion of 
> > > > > edk2-platforms branch.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      c) If no objections from EDK II community, then branch is 
> > > > > deleted and
> > > > >
> > > > >         archived at
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >           https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-archive.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 8) How to evaluate a platform in edk2-platforms
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      a) Clone edk2-platforms/[branch name]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      b) Following instructions in Readme.MD to build firmware and
> > > > >
> > > > >         update target platform
> > > >
> > > > Question again about Readme.MD for master branch.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Leif
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > </proposal>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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