> Because when the hardware watchdog times out, it triggers a hard system reset,
> without any software interaction.

Little more complexity around this piece of h/w
e.g once watchdog is started it cannot be stopped. 
Most caller seems to set timeout of 5 mins and later stopping watchdog. 
But actually watchdog is not stopped and OS needs to be loaded within this time 
or some
specific application needs to ping it.

Thx
Udit


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindh...@linaro.org]
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 9:04 PM
> To: Gao, Liming <liming....@intel.com>
> Cc: Udit Kumar <udit.ku...@nxp.com>; Kinney, Michael D
> <michael.d.kin...@intel.com>; Meenakshi Aggarwal
> <meenakshi.aggar...@nxp.com>; ard.biesheu...@linaro.org; edk2-
> de...@lists.01.org; Varun Sethi <v.se...@nxp.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH edk2-platforms] [PATCH v3 2/9] Platform/NXP : Add support
> for Watchdog driver
> 
> Liming,
> 
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> 
> This topic is entirely unrelated to any _usage_ of watchdog timer protocol.
> 
> The topic is only whether it is reasonable to _implement_
> EFI_WATCHDOG_TIMER_ARCH_PROTOCOL for a hardware watchdog that
> *cannot* cause a callback to a handler function.
> Because when the hardware watchdog times out, it triggers a hard system reset,
> without any software interaction.
> 
> /
>     Leif
> 
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 02:54:08PM +0000, Gao, Liming wrote:
> > Leif:
> >   I don't review the whole patch serial. Could you point your usage
> >   case on watch dog timer protocol?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Liming
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindh...@linaro.org]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 7:04 PM
> > > To: Gao, Liming <liming....@intel.com>
> > > Cc: Udit Kumar <udit.ku...@nxp.com>; Kinney, Michael D
> > > <michael.d.kin...@intel.com>; Meenakshi Aggarwal
> > > <meenakshi.aggar...@nxp.com>; ard.biesheu...@linaro.org;
> > > edk2-devel@lists.01.org; Varun Sethi <v.se...@nxp.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH edk2-platforms] [PATCH v3 2/9] Platform/NXP :
> > > Add support for Watchdog driver
> > >
> > > Hi Liming,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 07:11:38AM +0000, Gao, Liming wrote:
> > > > Leif:
> > > >   I don't see the core driver uses
> > > >   WatchdogTimer->RegisterHandler(). When it returns unsupported, it
> > > >   means the additional handler can't be registered. DxeCore uses
> > > >   WatchdogTimer->SetTimerPeriod(). This service is implemented in
> > > >   your driver.
> > > >
> > > >   Watchdog protocol is defined in PI spec. Spec describes that this
> > > >   protocol provides the services required to implement the Boot
> > > >   Service SetWatchdogTimer(). It provides a service to set the
> > > >   amount of time to wait before firing the watchdog timer, and it
> > > >   also provides a service to register a handler that is invoked when
> > > >   the watchdog timer fires. This protocol can implement the watchdog
> > > >   timer by using the event and timer Boot Services, or it can make
> > > >   use of custom hardware. If no handler has been registered, or the
> > > >   registered handler returns, then the system will be reset by
> > > >   calling the Runtime Service ResetSystem(). So, this protocol is
> > > >   required.
> > >
> > > I am not disputing that the protocol is not required. I am
> > > suggesting that this hardware watchdog _cannot_ be used to register a
> handler.
> > >
> > > If this hardware watchdog does not get updated in time, that causes
> > > an immediate hardware reset of the processor.
> > >
> > > Because of this, I believe EFI_WATCHDOG_TIMER_ARCH_PROTOCOL is not
> > > the appropriate way to make use of it.
> > >
> > > Please let me know whether you agree.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Leif
> > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Liming
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindh...@linaro.org]
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2017 7:06 PM
> > > > >To: Udit Kumar <udit.ku...@nxp.com>
> > > > >Cc: Gao, Liming <liming....@intel.com>; Kinney, Michael D
> > > > ><michael.d.kin...@intel.com>; Meenakshi Aggarwal
> > > > ><meenakshi.aggar...@nxp.com>; ard.biesheu...@linaro.org; edk2-
> > > > >de...@lists.01.org; Varun Sethi <v.se...@nxp.com>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [PATCH edk2-platforms] [PATCH v3 2/9] Platform/NXP :
> > > > >Add support for Watchdog driver
> > > > >
> > > > >On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 05:07:00AM +0000, Udit Kumar wrote:
> > > > >> >   I suggest return EFI_UNSUPPORTED for this case. The
> > > > >> > protocol
> > > > >implementation
> > > > >> > could return its status besides spec defined status.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Thanks to help me , how core will treat this error 1/  Wdt not
> > > > >> available 2/ ignoring this error 3/ core is not registering
> > > > >> handler I guess 3 is valid,
> > > > >
> > > > >Looking at Core/Dxe/Misc/SetWatchdogTimer.c:
> > > > >  //
> > > > >  // Attempt to set the timeout
> > > > >  //
> > > > >  Status = gWatchdogTimer->SetTimerPeriod (gWatchdogTimer,
> > > > >  MultU64x32 (Timeout, WATCHDOG_TIMER_CALIBRATE_PER_SECOND));
> > > > >
> > > > >  //
> > > > >  // Check for errors
> > > > >  //
> > > > >  if (EFI_ERROR (Status)) {
> > > > >    return EFI_DEVICE_ERROR;
> > > > >  }
> > > > >
> > > > >The SetWatchdogTimer() call would always return EFI_DEVICE_ERROR.
> > > > >
> > > > >> On side track, looks wdt is not used by core services then do
> > > > >> we really need this as part of arch protocol ?
> > > > >
> > > > >Yes, that was ultimately what I was implying with my question
> > > > >regarding whether this protocol is relevant for a watchdog that
> > > > >can only ever reset the system on timeout.
> > > > >
> > > > >The protocol looks to me to be designed to use a dedicated
> > > > >generic timer as backing for a software watchdog.
> > > > >
> > > > >Liming, Mike?
> > > > >
> > > > >If that is the case, then I agree this driver should probably not
> > > > >implement this protocol, but rather set up a timer event (or a
> > > > >dedicated timer) to stroke the watchdog.
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > >Leif
> > > > >
> > > > >> regards
> > > > >> Udit
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > From: Gao, Liming [mailto:liming....@intel.com]
> > > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 8:53 PM
> > > > >> > To: Leif Lindholm <leif.lindh...@linaro.org>; Kinney, Michael
> > > > >> > D <michael.d.kin...@intel.com>
> > > > >> > Cc: Meenakshi Aggarwal <meenakshi.aggar...@nxp.com>;
> > > > >> > ard.biesheu...@linaro.org; edk2-devel@lists.01.org; Udit
> > > > >> > Kumar <udit.ku...@nxp.com>; Varun Sethi <v.se...@nxp.com>
> > > > >> > Subject: RE: [PATCH edk2-platforms] [PATCH v3 2/9]
> > > > >> > Platform/NXP : Add
> > > > >support
> > > > >> > for Watchdog driver
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Leif:
> > > > >> >   I suggest return EFI_UNSUPPORTED for this case. The
> > > > >> > protocol
> > > > >implementation
> > > > >> > could return its status besides spec defined status.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Thanks
> > > > >> > Liming
> > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> > > From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:leif.lindh...@linaro.org]
> > > > >> > > Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 10:36 PM
> > > > >> > > To: Kinney, Michael D <michael.d.kin...@intel.com>; Gao,
> > > > >> > > Liming <liming....@intel.com>
> > > > >> > > Cc: Meenakshi Aggarwal <meenakshi.aggar...@nxp.com>;
> > > > >> > > ard.biesheu...@linaro.org; edk2-devel@lists.01.org;
> > > > >> > > udit.ku...@nxp.com; v.se...@nxp.com
> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH edk2-platforms] [PATCH v3 2/9]
> > > > >> > > Platform/NXP : Add support for Watchdog driver
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Mike, Liming, as MdePkg mainteiners - one question below:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 04:21:50PM +0530, Meenakshi Aggarwal
> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > diff --git a/Platform/NXP/Drivers/WatchDog/WatchDog.c
> > > > >> > > > b/Platform/NXP/Drivers/WatchDog/WatchDog.c
> > > > >> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > >> > > > index 0000000..a9c70ef
> > > > >> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > >> > > > +++ b/Platform/NXP/Drivers/WatchDog/WatchDog.c
> > > > >> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,421 @@
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > ...
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > > +/**
> > > > >> > > > +  This function registers the handler NotifyFunction so
> > > > >> > > > +it is called every time
> > > > >> > > > +  the watchdog timer expires.  It also passes the amount
> > > > >> > > > +of time since the last
> > > > >> > > > +  handler call to the NotifyFunction.
> > > > >> > > > +  If NotifyFunction is not NULL and a handler is not
> > > > >> > > > +already registered,
> > > > >> > > > +  then the new handler is registered and EFI_SUCCESS is 
> > > > >> > > > returned.
> > > > >> > > > +  If NotifyFunction is NULL, and a handler is already
> > > > >> > > > +registered,
> > > > >> > > > +  then that handler is unregistered.
> > > > >> > > > +  If an attempt is made to register a handler when a
> > > > >> > > > +handler is already registered,
> > > > >> > > > +  then EFI_ALREADY_STARTED is returned.
> > > > >> > > > +  If an attempt is made to unregister a handler when a
> > > > >> > > > +handler is not registered,
> > > > >> > > > +  then EFI_INVALID_PARAMETER is returned.
> > > > >> > > > +
> > > > >> > > > +  @param  This             The EFI_TIMER_ARCH_PROTOCOL
> instance.
> > > > >> > > > +  @param  NotifyFunction   The function to call when a timer
> interrupt
> > > > >fires.
> > > > >> > This
> > > > >> > > > +                           function executes at
> > > > >> > > > + TPL_HIGH_LEVEL. The DXE Core
> > > > >will
> > > > >> > > > +                           register a handler for the timer 
> > > > >> > > > interrupt, so it can
> know
> > > > >> > > > +                           how much time has passed. This 
> > > > >> > > > information is
> used to
> > > > >> > > > +                           signal timer based events.
> > > > >> > > > + NULL will unregister the
> > > > >handler.
> > > > >> > > > +
> > > > >> > > > +  @retval EFI_SUCCESS           The watchdog timer handler was
> > > > >registered.
> > > > >> > > > +  @retval EFI_ALREADY_STARTED   NotifyFunction is not NULL,
> and a
> > > > >> > handler is already
> > > > >> > > > +                                registered.
> > > > >> > > > +  @retval EFI_INVALID_PARAMETER NotifyFunction is NULL,
> > > > >> > > > + and a
> > > > >handler
> > > > >> > was not
> > > > >> > > > +                                previously registered.
> > > > >> > > > +
> > > > >> > > > +**/
> > > > >> > > > +STATIC
> > > > >> > > > +EFI_STATUS
> > > > >> > > > +EFIAPI
> > > > >> > > > +WdogRegisterHandler (
> > > > >> > > > +  IN EFI_WATCHDOG_TIMER_ARCH_PROTOCOL   *This,
> > > > >> > > > +  IN EFI_WATCHDOG_TIMER_NOTIFY          NotifyFunction
> > > > >> > > > +  )
> > > > >> > > > +{
> > > > >> > > > +  // ERROR: This function is not supported.
> > > > >> > > > +  // The hardware watchdog will reset the board
> > > > >> > > > +  return EFI_INVALID_PARAMETER;
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Michael, Liming - what's your take on this?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Is EFI_WATCHDOG_TIMER_ARCH_PROTOCOL suitable for use with a
> > > > >pure-hw
> > > > >> > > watchdog such as this?
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > If so, what would be a suitable return code here?
> > > > >> > > EFI_INVALID_PARAMETER does not look ideal.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > /
> > > > >> > >     Leif
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