I'm using Thunderbird 60.2.1 on Linux. If I respond to Leif's message (the one quoted below) with the "reply" button, it's addressed only to him. If I use "reply all", it goes to him, the list, and all other recipients of the original message. (That's what I did on this response.) If I use "reply to mailing list", it goes only to the list.

So exactly what I'd expect.  No issues here.

Brian

On 10/30/18 3:49 AM, Leif Lindholm wrote:
Hi Mike,

That resolves the issue at my end, thanks!. But it would be good to
know how it works for others (does Intel have a default mail client
config, and could someone else verify the behaviour is how you would
normally expect?).

Regards,

Leif

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:40:06PM +0000, Kinney, Michael D wrote:
Hi Leif,

I can put the reply_goes_to_list option back to "Poster".

In that configuration, a user that has a DMARC policy of
reject will still have their from address munged.

But I noticed that the edk2-devel mailing list is not
present when anyone does a Reply-all to an email with
a munged from address.  That implied to me that everyone
would need to check if the edk2-devel mailing has been
removed from a Reply-all and add it back manually.  This
also seems like a non-ideal configuration option.

However, the behavior I am seeing could be due to some
of my client settings.

So I will put the reply_goes_to_list option back to
"Poster".

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Leif Lindholm [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 2:10 PM
To: Kinney, Michael D <[email protected]>
Cc: EDK II Development <[email protected]>;
Cetola, Stephano <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing list
configuration changes

Hi Mike,

I could hypothesise about which email client you may be
using :)

But let me instead mention that the two email clients I
have (mutt and
gmail web interface) behave identically - neither adds
the original
sender to cc when the list server forces a reply-to
header.

Regards,

Leif

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:49:09PM +0000, Kinney,
Michael D wrote:
Leif,

Very strange.  When I do the same on that email, it
shows Paul on the To address line.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Leif Lindholm
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 1:40 PM
To: Kinney, Michael D <[email protected]>
Cc: EDK II Development <[email protected]>;
Cetola, Stephano <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel mailing
list
configuration changes

Hi Mike,

When I try to "reply-to", the email from Paul A
Lohr,
sent 10 minutes
after your one below, he does not show up in either
"to"
or "cc".

OK, I missed the excitement during the plugfest.
I'll go
back and see
what I can find there.

Regards,

Leif

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:23:43PM +0000, Kinney,
Michael D wrote:
Leif,

I have enabled a different configuration setting
that should be better.

Please try some emails and let me know if there
are any impacts.

The reason for these changes is the DMARC related
issue that occurred on 10-19-2018 that required a
number of users to be disabled.  The goal of these
changes is to enable those users to be re-
activated.

Thanks,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Leif Lindholm
[mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2018 12:54 PM
To: EDK II Development <[email protected]>
Cc: Kinney, Michael D
<[email protected]>;
Cetola, Stephano <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [edk2] ** NOTICE ** edk2-devel
mailing
list
configuration changes

Hi Mike,

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 06:42:44PM +0000,
Kinney,
Michael D wrote:
Some configuration changes have been made to
the edk2-devel mailing list to handle posts
from
a domain with a DMARC Reject/Quarantine policy
enabled. If this is detected then the from
address
is now munged.

One side effect of this setting is that the
behavior of Reply has changed.  Instead of
being
a reply to the poster of the message, the
Reply
address is the edk2-devel mailing list.

The behaviour looks somewhat broken, since as
far as
I
can tell,
replies now longer include the person you're
replying
to.
(This doesn't happen when replying specifically
to
_you_, because you
cc yourself on everything).

If you wish to send a private reply to only
the
poster of the message, you may have to perform
some manual steps.

Please let me know if you have any concerns
about
these changes or if these configuration
changes
cause any other side effects.

Can we make sure the person being replied to is
at
least
on cc?
Otherwise, we've just broken the workflow for
anyone
filtering on
whether they are on "to" or "cc".

Why was this change necessary?

Regards,

Leif
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