On 11/20/18 15:40, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > On Tue, 20 Nov 2018 at 15:30, Ming Huang <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 11/20/2018 8:58 PM, Leif Lindholm wrote: >>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 08:40:28PM +0800, Ming Huang wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 11/20/2018 8:13 PM, Leif Lindholm wrote: >>>>> On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 05:01:46PM +0800, Ming Huang wrote: >>>>>> Now that the generic Variable Runtime DXE code no longer >>>>>> distinguishes between gEfiVariableGuid and >>>>>> gEfiAuthenticatedVariableGuid in the varstore FV header. >>>>>> We can relax the check in the flashFvb driver to accept >>>>>> either GUID regardless of whether we are running a secure >>>>>> boot capable build or not. >>>>> >>>>> We are still in a situation where D06 is not buildable with Secure >>>>> Boot enabled though. >>>>> >>>>> If you build with -D SECURE_BOOT_ENABLE=TRUE, you still end up with >>>>> /work/git/edk2-platforms/Platform/Hisilicon/D06/D06.dsc(...): error >>>>> 4000: Instance of library class [PlatformSecureLib] is not found >>>>> in >>>>> [/work/git/edk2/SecurityPkg/VariableAuthenticated/SecureBootConfigDxe/SecureBootConfigDxe.inf] >>>>> [AARCH64] >>>>> consumed by module >>>>> [/work/git/edk2/SecurityPkg/VariableAuthenticated/SecureBootConfigDxe/SecureBootConfigDxe.inf] >>>>> >>>>> And all Hisilicon platforms still use >>>>> AuthVariableLib|MdeModulePkg/Library/AuthVariableLibNull/AuthVariableLibNull.inf >>>>> regardless of Secure Boot setting. >>>>> >>>>> So what problem does this patch solve? A runtime one? >>>> >>>> This patch solve bug in FlashFvbDxe. >>> >>> Yes, but what bug? What is the symptom? What _specific_ problem goes >>> away by adding this patch? That information should have been in the >>> original commit message. I have no information available to me as I >>> now build -rc1 to suggest that this patch should be included. >> >> The bug is that gEfiAuthenticatedVariableGuid should be used in FlashFvbDxe, >> not gEfiVariableGuid when enable secure boot. >> >>> >>>> Should I add a patch before this patch >>>> to solve build error with -D SECURE_BOOT_ENABLE=TRUE in v4? >>> >>> That would require a sane implementation of PlatformSecureLib, >>> implementing a real UserPhysicalPresent(). >>> Can you turn that around within the next few hours? >> >> My original idea is using >> OvmfPkg/Library/PlatformSecureLib/PlatformSecureLib. >> There is not enough time to implement a real UserPhysicalPresent. >> This patch will add when we implement real secure boot in future. >> > > I think it is a terrible idea to enable secure boot now in an insecure > manner, and enable 'real' secure boot later. > > Note that it is impossible to implement secure boot in a secure manner > using the generic VariableRuntimeDxe. The crypto routines that perform > the authentication are located in EfiRuntimeServicesCode memory > regions, which are writable by the OS, and so any exploit on the OS > side can modify that code to defeat the checks. Also, the SPI flash > that backs the variable store is accessible by the OS directly. > > That means a proper secure boot implementation will not be based on > any of the components in use currently, and so enabling it does > nothing except confuse people or give them a false sense of security. > If this is based on OS or firmware test results, please disregard > those - this is a tick the box mentality that is wholly incompatible > with building secure systems. >
Yup. Thanks, Laszlo _______________________________________________ edk2-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.01.org/mailman/listinfo/edk2-devel

