On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 19:50, Achin Gupta <achin.gu...@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 06:33:26PM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 16:28, Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 01/04/19 12:57, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2019 at 17:14, Laszlo Ersek <ler...@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 01/03/19 12:03, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > > >>> On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 at 14:14, Jagadeesh Ujja <jagadeesh.u...@arm.com> 
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Some of the existing DXE drivers can be refactored to execute within
> > > >>>> the Standalone MM execution environment as well. Allow such drivers 
> > > >>>> to
> > > >>>> get access to the Standalone MM services tables.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Add a mechanism to determine the execution mode is required.
> > > >>>> i.e, in MM or non-MM
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Contributed-under: TianoCore Contribution Agreement 1.1
> > > >>>> Signed-off-by: Jagadeesh Ujja <jagadeesh.u...@arm.com>
> > > >>>> ---
> > > >>>>  MdePkg/Include/Library/StandaloneMmServicesTableLib.h               
> > > >>>>          | 43 ++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >>>>  
> > > >>>> MdePkg/Library/StandaloneMmServicesTableLib/StandaloneMmServicesTableLib.c
> > > >>>>    | 39 ++++++++++++++++++
> > > >>>>  
> > > >>>> MdePkg/Library/StandaloneMmServicesTableLib/StandaloneMmServicesTableLib.inf
> > > >>>>  | 36 ++++++++++++++++
> > > >>>>  MdePkg/MdePkg.dec                                                   
> > > >>>>          |  4 ++
> > > >>>>  4 files changed, 122 insertions(+)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> OK, so since the PI spec only refers to MM mode now, this library
> > > >>> class should be
> > > >>>
> > > >>> MmServicesTableLib|Include/Library/MmServicesTableLib.h
> > > >>>
> > > >>> with an implementation in MdeModulePkg that exposes the deprecated SMM
> > > >>> system table as the MM system table.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In StandaloneMmPkg, we can add an implementation that exposes the
> > > >>> standalone MM system table.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> (They are binary compatible, so it is just a matter of casting one
> > > >>> pointer to the other)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> With this in place, we can go ahead and update FaultTolerantWrite and
> > > >>> Variable SMM driver to switch from SmmServicesTableLib to
> > > >>> MmServicesTableLib. This will require existing x86 platforms to define
> > > >>> a new library class resolution for MmServicesTableLib, referring to
> > > >>> the implementation in MdeModulePkg. This is unfortunate, but it is an
> > > >>> unavoidable consequence of the PI spec changes.
> > > >>
> > > >> It shouldn't be too intrusive or hard to review, I expect.
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Remaining question is what to do with InSmm() ...
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm lacking the context on this; on the other hand, I can refer back to
> > > >> at least one earlier discussion -- there had been multiple -- of the
> > > >> discrepancy between the PI spec and the edk2 code. See:
> > > >>
> > > >> - bullet (9) in
> > > >> <http://mid.mail-archive.com/aada511c-bdb9-d833-caa5-bee56cc47d27@redhat.com>,
> > > >> - and
> > > >> <http://mid.mail-archive.com/0C09AFA07DD0434D9E2A0C6AEB0483103BB55B46@shsmsx102.ccr.corp.intel.com>.
> > > >>
> > > >> Not sure how that can be applied to Arm.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > The code I posted yesterday does not use InMm() at all. For standalone
> > > > MM, it should always return TRUE anyway, and any code that a driver
> > > > would execute if it returned FALSE needs to be factored out anyway,
> > > > since it should not end up in standalone MM binaries as dead code.
> > > >
> > >
> > > OK. That seems to make sense. I've read up a bit on "standalone MM" in
> > > the PI v1.6 spec, vol 4. Having no access to UEFI protocols even in the
> > > entry point function, at driver init time, seems challenging to me. I
> > > guess I'll learn more about this as a part of the usual list traffic.
> > >
> > > What is the MODULE_TYPE that standalone MM drivers use, in place of
> > > DXE_SMM_DRIVER (= EFI_FV_FILETYPE_MM, 0x0A)?
> > >
> > > Hm... from the other patches, it seems to be MM_STANDALONE (=
> > > EFI_FV_FILETYPE_MM_STANDALONE, 0x0E). OK.
> > >
> > > If I'd like to see a short summary of standalone MM, relative to
> > > traditional MM, and why it is more suitable -- I presume -- for aarch64,
> > > which document should I look at, from
> > > <https://mantis.uefi.org/mantis/view.php?id=1390>, for example?
> > >
> >
> > Perhaps Achin can answer this, since he has been driving the spec side
> > of this? (and maintains StandaloneMmPkg)
>
> The idea behind MM Standalone mode was to sandbox MM code in self sufficient
> execution context. This was a step to avoid some of the vulnerabilities in
> traditional SMM due to code and data sharing with DXE.
>
> On AArch64, the MM standalone mode is initialised during the SEC phase. This
> corresponds to Trustzone initialisation. Furthermore, the MM standalone
> execution context is placed in user mode (Secure EL0) instead of running it 
> in a
> privileged processor mode (S-EL1 or EL3 on AArch64, Ring -2 or SMM on x86). 
> This
> restricts what the MM standalone context can see and do. Lastly, after SEC no
> more MM Standalone drivers can be initialized during PEI or DXE (in contrast 
> to
> the example in PI 1.6 Section 1.5.2).
>
> Hope that makes sense?
>

I agree, but this is not what StandaloneMmPkg implements today: it
implements a MmFvDispatchHandler that permits a FV to be brough into
the MM environment, and the MM dispatcher will happily dispatch all
the MM_STANDALONE modules it contains.

Also, there are some other pieces missing (which I mentioned in one of
the other threads but I suppose you may not have caught up yet):
EndOfDxe (as well as some other PI defined events) needs to be
signalled to the standalone MM context by some non-MM agent, and I
think there are other parts of the traditional SMM IPL that have not
been ported to standalone MM yet.

> I have not seen all the patches in this and related series but the use of 
> InMM()
> to allow code to have a DXE driver or a MM Standalone driver personality seems
> to defeat the entire purpose of Standalone MM. My concern is that any code 
> that
> is relevant only to DXE or PEI must not be a part of the MM Standalone
> context. This could be achieved through proper refactoring + conditional
> compilation. If the decision is taken at runtime then this is just traditional
> MM.
>
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