nice note mike
>Impossible? No. Requiring a great deal of effort on the part of some
>cluster of folks? Definitely!
absolutely!
>There is some discussion of this very possibility in Psychology, although
>I've yet to see evidence of fruition. A very large part of the problem,
>in my mind, is breaking out of established stereotypes of what a Stats and
>Methods sequence should look like, and then finding the materials to
>support that vision.
i think it may ONLY be possible within a large unit that requires their
students to take their methods courses ... design, testing, statistics,
etc. i think it will be very hard for a unit that PROVIDES SUBSTANTIAL
cross unit service courses ... to do this
for example, in our small edpsy program at penn state, most of the courses
in research methods, measurement, and stat ... are for OTHERS ... even
though our own students take most of them too. if we redesigned a sequence
that would be more integrative ... for our own students, students from
outside would NOT enroll for sure ... because they are looking for (or
their advisors are) THE course in stat ... or THE course in research
methods ... etc. they are not going to sit still for say a two/3 course
sequence
>If I could find good materials that were designed specifically to support
>the integrated sequence, I might be able to get others to go along with
>it.
i think the more serious problem would be agreeing what should be contained
in what course ... that is, the layout of this more integrative approach
if that could be done, i don't think it would be that hard to work on
materials that fit the bill ... by having different faculty write some
modules ... by finding good web links ... and, gathering a book of readings
what you want is NOT necessarily a BOOK that does it this way but, a MANUAL
you have developed over time .... that accomplishes the goals of this approach
It can be done, but it will require someone with more energy and force of
>will than I.
i doubt i have the energy either ...
>Mike
>
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>Michael M. Granaas
>Associate Professor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Department of Psychology
>University of South Dakota Phone: (605) 677-5295
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>Dakota Board of Regents.
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