Here is a query from someone I met in a hallway a couple weeks ago.
I'm not sure I even understand the question.  If anyone out there
recognizes anything familiar in this scenario, you might respond to
JMC -- not to me or the list.


----- Forwarded message from Jennifer Mary Collins -----


The problem is that the data I use, which is hurricane numbers, deals
with small numbers.  Hence they are poisson distributed, when one
considers the other criteria to be poisson.

If I have pressure, 5 strongest pressure years from a 26 year
data set, and 5 weakest pressure years and calulate the average number
of hurricanes in each group.  

I have group a, with an average of say 4
group b 0.4
The stdev on each is 1.23 an 0.55 repectively.

I calculated the ratio of a/b to be 10:1

I am trying to work out the significance of this ratio.  I did this in
three ways, 

1/ see if the Stdev on each number overlap to the other average
or even the other stdev on the average, and reject it if it does.  In
this case I can accept it as the stdev's do not overlap to one standard
deviation.

or
2/ I worked out a propogation of errors on the ratio.

where Ratio= Ratio+-error

error= (stdev of hurricanes (groupa)/root(n))squared/(average(group
a)squared)  +   (stdev of
hurricanes(groupb)/root(n))squared/(average(group b)squared)

so is the method I did above ok? but then I was going to ask, what level
of error is significantly ok, and what is unacceptable.  I got this
equation from a book by Bevington, but I think this may be for Gaussian
distributions.


3/ Another equation I have found is in a book by Rothman and Greenland,
'Modern Epidemiology'.  

sqrt(1/Nprh + 1/Nprl)
where N is total number
where prh prl are for High pressure years and low pressure years
respectively,
I get

sqrt(1/20 + 1/2)=sqrt(0.55)=0.74

Then you test if this is significantly different from unity.
I am aware that this also requires numbers to be greater than 10.

So my problem is that I want to look at ratios from two numbers and see
if they are significant, but I need to account for small numbers, i.e.
not Gaussian distributions.  Are you able to suggest an appropriate
technique?

I look forward to hearing from you and hope that you do not mind me
asking you this question.


Many Thanks

Jennifer

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