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dennis roberts wrote:
> 
> At 11:26 AM 4/11/00 -0400, you wrote:
> 
> >dennis roberts wrote:
> > >
> > > this was not about a difference in rhos .. just the rho singly from that
> > > population ...
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >It can be framed similarly replace mu1-mu2 with rho
> >
> >If the null hypothesis is H0:rho=0
> >and the alternative  is   H1:rho>0
> >
> >What does the test say about rho if we reject H0 at level
> >alpha(say at the magical 0.05)? Not much on its own.
> 
> that's precisely my point ... what you know about rho is essentially zip
> 
> >  However, what
> >if we plan  a statistical experiment as follows:
> 
> in other words here ... the significance test as framed, the normal null,
> ... is useless
> 
> >       ^^^^
> >Given a desired power of 0.90 we would need a sample
> >of size 33 to detect a rho=.5 different from 0
> >at level alpha=0.05.
> >
> >We run the experiment with a sample of size 33 and
> >we reject H0. Now what can we infer about
> >rho in terms of probabilities?  Quite
> >a bit more than just running an experiment without
> >considering power.
> 
> like what ... that .5 is more likely than 0? but ... could it be .3? or .2
> ... ?
> does this mean that it is CLOSER to .5 than 0?
> 
> >If we do not reject H0 given this design
> >what does it say about rho?  Not that rho=0,
> >but rho=0 is a more likely scenario than
> >rho=.5(or >.5)
> 
> same question ... does this mean it is closer to 0 than .5?


it would be easy to show whether rho is more likely closer to 0 or .5 
given the parameters of a designed study


what if the confidence interval for rho was (0,0.5), is rho closer to 0
or .5
or .25 for that matter?


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