I believe the author that Ellen quoted was referring to MCS and, if so, I agree
with that author.  IMHO, there will eventually be MCS software that will allow
high school students to run circles around what today's PhDs do with closed form
solutions.

William Chambers wrote:

> Ellen,
>
> It amazes me to read the self-righteous judgements of people on this
> thread.. a number of whom have made incompetent criticisms of corresponding
> correlations with the same arrogance and stupidity that they attribute to
> the data mining boys,  When the purpose becomes making money and not
> pursuing truth, then we see such arrogance,  lies and eventual evil. Real
> people get hurt.  Truth itself begins to appear to be an illusion, What ever
> sells appears to be the good, When people are not willing to learn and to
> discuss; to test and to discover, then we get the sort of ridiculous
> examples of the pot calling the kettle black making up this thread. I like
> your call for discernment.  Good luck.
>
> Bill Chambers
>
> Ellen Hertz wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >I looked up one and copied it:
> >
> >      "For the first time, thanks to the increased power of computers, new
> >methods replace the skill of the statistical artisan with
> massive-computational
> >methods, obtaining equal or better results in far less time without
> requiring
> >any specialised knowledge."
> >
> >In all fairness, I haven't read the whole paper and if he is referring
> purely to
> >computations such as generating maximum likelihood estimates or inverting
> >matrices, he is quite right that computers beat pencils. If he means to
> just run
> >programs without knowing what they mean and generate GIGO, that  certainly
> is
> >dangerous.
> >
> >Ellen Hertz
> >
> >Zubin wrote:
> >
> >> Can you be more specific on what the misleading statements are?  And why
> you
> >> think they are misleading.
> >>
> >> T.S. Lim <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> > While hunting for URLs for KDCentral.com, I encountered several
> >> > misleading statements about Statistics made by Data Mining people.
> >> > I've posted 3 of them to my bulletin board. If you encounter other
> >> > wrong remarks, I invite you to post them to the board too at
> >> >
> >> >    http://www.recursive-partitioning.com/forums
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > T.S. Lim
> >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > www.Recursive-Partitioning.com
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >> > Get paid to write review! http://recursive-partitioning.epinions.com
> >



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