--------------A8094A477B7DA137EC8D6CF7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would agree that once upon a time Stat MS's ended up being SAS programmers, but these days that has changed quite a bit. Pharmaceutical companies used to essentially ignore Stat MS's or turn them into SAS programmers; however, at Ely Lilly at least (don't work there but know those who do), Stat MS's have been give a more prominent role in data analysis - similar to what PhD's might have done years ago. I don't know about other companies in the area. I've been told most MD's won't talk to MS statisticians, but that may be an out-dated generalization. In the industrial statistics area Stat MS's are highly desired. I would say most manufacturing companies primarily seek out Stat MS's and sometimes will actually turn away PhD's (I know of a specific example where a large automotive company refused to even interview a PhD applicant because they felt the applicant would be sufficiently challenged). With the recent bloom of Six Sigma activity in many corporations around the world a Stat MS is a prime target to become a Master Black Belt and be heavily involved in Black Belt development and quality improvement. Talk to anyone who works at GE or Allied Signal - they'll tell you how prized the Master Black Belts are. You can also call Tracey Gmoser at SmithHanley (a headhunting firm with lots of stats placement experience) - 212-687-9696. She has LOT's of experience placing MS statisticians in all sorts of fields and can give you a real good feeling for the opportunities out there. They're website is http://www.smithhanley.com/index-executive.html. Bob Hayden wrote: > ----- Forwarded message from d.u. ----- > > Hello, I was wondering the job prospects for a master's degree in stat, > and whether jobwise it is highly desirable to also do some computer > science (e.g., programming languages, data structures etc). I'd > appreciate any suggestions. Thank you! > > ----- End of forwarded message from d.u. ----- > > Many of these people end up as SAS programmers. Lots of experience > wtih SAS may be more valuable than abstract computer science. > > > _ > | | Robert W. Hayden > | | Work: Department of Mathematics > / | Plymouth State College MSC#29 > | | Plymouth, New Hampshire 03264 USA > | * | fax (603) 535-2943 > / | Home: 82 River Street (use this in the summer) > | ) Ashland, NH 03217 > L_____/ (603) 968-9914 (use this year-round) > Map of New [EMAIL PROTECTED] (works year-round) > Hampshire http://mathpc04.plymouth.edu (works year-round) > > The State of New Hampshire takes no responsibility for what this map > looks like if you are not using a fixed-width font such as Courier. > > "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in > overalls and looks like work." --Thomas Edison > > ================================================================= > Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about > the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at > http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ > ================================================================= --------------A8094A477B7DA137EC8D6CF7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> I would agree that once upon a time Stat MS's ended up being SAS programmers, but these days that has changed quite a bit. <p>Pharmaceutical companies used to essentially ignore Stat MS's or turn them into SAS programmers; however, at Ely Lilly at least (don't work there but know those who do), Stat MS's have been give a more prominent role in data analysis - similar to what PhD's might have done years ago. I don't know about other companies in the area. I've been told most MD's won't talk to MS statisticians, but that may be an out-dated generalization. <p>In the industrial statistics area Stat MS's are highly desired. I would say most manufacturing companies primarily seek out Stat MS's and sometimes will actually turn away PhD's (I know of a specific example where a large automotive company refused to even interview a PhD applicant because they felt the applicant would be sufficiently challenged). With the recent bloom of Six Sigma activity in many corporations around the world a Stat MS is a prime target to become a Master Black Belt and be heavily involved in Black Belt development and quality improvement. Talk to anyone who works at GE or Allied Signal - they'll tell you how prized the Master Black Belts are. <p>You can also call Tracey Gmoser at SmithHanley (a headhunting firm with lots of stats placement experience) - 212-687-9696. She has LOT's of experience placing MS statisticians in all sorts of fields and can give you a real good feeling for the opportunities out there. They're website is <a href="http://www.smithhanley.com/index-executive.html">http://www.smithhanley.com/index-executive.html.</a> <p>Bob Hayden wrote: <blockquote TYPE=CITE>----- Forwarded message from d.u. ----- <p>Hello, I was wondering the job prospects for a master's degree in stat, <br>and whether jobwise it is highly desirable to also do some computer <br>science (e.g., programming languages, data structures etc). I'd <br>appreciate any suggestions. Thank you! <p>----- End of forwarded message from d.u. ----- <p>Many of these people end up as SAS programmers. Lots of experience <br>wtih SAS may be more valuable than abstract computer science. <br> <p> _ <br> | | Robert W. Hayden <br> | | Work: Department of Mathematics <br> / | Plymouth State College MSC#29 <br> | | Plymouth, New Hampshire 03264 USA <br> | * | fax (603) 535-2943 <br> / | Home: 82 River Street (use this in the summer) <br> | ) Ashland, NH 03217 <br> L_____/ (603) 968-9914 (use this year-round) <br>Map of New [EMAIL PROTECTED] (works year-round) <br>Hampshire <a href="http://mathpc04.plymouth.edu">http://mathpc04.plymouth.edu</a> (works year-round) <p>The State of New Hampshire takes no responsibility for what this map <br>looks like if you are not using a fixed-width font such as Courier. <p>"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in <br>overalls and looks like work." --Thomas Edison <p>================================================================= <br>Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about <br>the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at <br> <a href="http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/">http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/</a> <br>=================================================================</blockquote> </html> --------------A8094A477B7DA137EC8D6CF7-- ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list and remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES are available at http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ =================================================================
