On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Peter Lewycky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've often been called upon to do a t-test with 5 animals in one 
> > group and 4 animals in the other. The power is abysmally low and 
> > rarely do I get a p less than 0.05. One of the difficulties that 
> > medical researchers have is with the notion of power and concomitant 
> > sample size.  I make it a point of calculating power especially 
> > where Ho has not been rejected.  It gives the researcher some comfort 
> > in that his therapy may indeed be effective.  All he needs for 0.8 
> > power is 28,141 rats per group. 

> <grin>
> This has got to be one of the funniest things I have read on a stats
> newsgroup.  I'm sure its not really meant to be funny, 

Dunno why you'd be so certain of that.  I've known Peter for a while, 
and certainly would not characterize him as lacking a sense of humour... 

> but the thought of truckloads upon truckload of rats arriving to 
> satisfy power requirements puts a highly amusing spin on the whole 
> thing. :)
> I am stifling an insane cackle because I know statistics is a serious
> business but really....

It may, sometimes, be a serious business;  but that's not to say that 
one should _take_ it seriously.
                                -- DFB.
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