============  Bob Hayden wrote to the AP list:   ======================
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bob Hayden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "AP Statistics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 10:01 AM
> > Subject: [ap-stat] revote
> >
> >
> > > After considering all the issues raised on the lists regarding the
> > > election, I think the best solution would be a revote in every state
> > > of the union -- but with NEW CANDIDATES!-)
> > > --
> > >      | |     Robert W. Hayden
> > >      | |          Work: Department of Mathematics
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> > > Map of New        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (works year-round)
> > > Hampshire         http://mathpc04.plymouth.edu (works year-round)
> > >
> > > The State of New Hampshire takes no responsibility for what this map
> > > looks like if you are not using a fixed-width font such as Courier.
> > >
> > > "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in
> > > overalls and looks like work." --Thomas Edison

===  Joe Ward replied to Bob Hayden =======

> > Hey, Bob --
> >
> > THAT really brought some hearty chuckles to
> > Bettie and I.
> >
> > -- Joe
> >
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> > Joe Ward.........................................Health Careers High
School
> > 167 East Arrowhead Dr....................4646 Hamilton Wolfe
> > San Antonio, TX 78228-2402...........San Antonio, TX 78229
> > Phone: 210-433-6575.......................Phone:  210-617-5400
> > Fax: 210-433-2828............................Fax: 210-617-5423
> > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.ijoa.org/joeward/wardindex.html
> >
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====== Then Bob Hayden wrote:   =========================
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Hayden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joe Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ap-stat] revote
>
> Their post-election bickering did not endear them to me.  I think they
> should both go home, return to their jobs, and SHUT UP.
>

========  Joe Ward Comments about Accuracy of Voting Responses ======
========  Is there research on the Design of Voting Forms?  =============
Hi, Bob --

In ANY election, the format for obtaining voting responses should be
designed
to minimize the chances for inaccurate responses.  It is surprising that
the "format-approval folks" in Palm Beach did not redesign the form.  It
looks like
the form was designed for convenience of the computer folks or
the print shop or others--but not for the accuracy of responses.

No matter who is the winner in any election,  there probably are some local
voting
systems that need "fine tuning".

In San Antonio, we have gone through numerous varieties of
voting formats.  Some seem better than others. I'm not sure how
the final forms are "approved".

In this recent election we used felt-tip markers!!!  The ink soaked through
to the back side of the paper but when my wife mentioned it, the "judges"
said that it had been checked and "did not interfere with the markings on
the other side".
 But do we know what happens if there is a SMEAR of the wet ink?  Does THAT
BALLOT COUNT, or is it rejected?  If I were running for election in our
county and the
voting was close, then I certainly would ask for a "hand" recount to find
out how many
votes were rejected by the scan machine because of "smear" or because the
wet ink
soaked through the paper (probably cheap paper) and was "sensed" on the
back.

 Perhaps there should be a research project designed by a TASK FORCE of some
ASA
members to evaluate the many different forms to find out which form(s)
MINIMIZE INACCURACY
OF RESPONSE.  It is likely that  such research has been done since it
is such an important activity.  The studies should consider age, education,
language and other
variables.

-- Joe
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Joe Ward.........................................Health Careers High School
167 East Arrowhead Dr....................4646 Hamilton Wolfe
San Antonio, TX 78228-2402...........San Antonio, TX 78229
Phone: 210-433-6575.......................Phone:  210-617-5400
Fax: 210-433-2828............................Fax: 210-617-5423
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.ijoa.org/joeward/wardindex.html
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