In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Dino, I'm not an expert, I come here for advise, but certainly I would
>think any statistician would need to understand probability first,

You would be surprised at how many statisticians have little 
understanding of probability, and how many of those who have
more consider it as formal, and only look at calculating
probabilities.  The important part is understanding probabilities,
which seems almost independent of calculating.

>then univariate and multivariate statistics, as a foundation.

It is really necessary to start much farther back, with the
idea of a decision problem.  The fundamental problem can be
stated in one sentence:

        It is necessary to simultaneously consider all
        consequences of the proposed action in all 
        states of nature.

Much of current statistical practice would be excluded
by application of this simple principle.  The principle
does not, by itself, tell what to do, but it states that
the question needs to be asked.

        If you
>will be able to maintain access to it, SPSS or SAS are among the more
>powerful tools to know, and learning them will force you to understand
>the stats.

This is false.  These are heavily used by disciples of 
various cults of the statistical religion, who use the
methods as mandated divinely, but without knowing what
they are doing, or why.

Learn concepts and theory; correct application is then
easy.  Learn formulas and methods, and it becomes 
harder to achieve the understanding.

        Seems like around this campus, SAS is what the hardcore
>stat folks use, but you have to know what you are doing. HTH

>Jim


>On Sun, 06 Jan 2002 18:21:13 +0800, Dino Hsu
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>Dear all,

>>I am a programmer and database administrator, I have been equipped
>>with IT basics. After I do OLAP (data mart) and data mining, I am
>>turning into a statistics + IT cross-disciplinary area for master and
>>doctor degrees. Can anyone tell me what the basics of statistics are
>>required? 1. Introduction to Statistics 2. Multi-variable analysis? 3.
>>statistics tools (statistica?) Anything else?

>>Thanks,
>>Dino





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