William Chambers:

It has been apparent from the start that, in your opinion, anyone who
disagrees with you is a fraud. That's fine. You may consider me whatever you
want. But the name calling does not further your cause and will serve to
dissuade many from participating in the list. Does that advance the cause of
truth?

Paul R. Swank, Ph.D.
Professor, Developmental Pediatrics
Medical School
UT Health Science Center at Houston



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From: "E. Jacquelin Dietz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: The Mob Howls Genius


> Dr. Chambers,
>
> I am the listowner of the edstat e-mail list.  As you may know, the
> newsgroup sci.stat.edu and the edstat list are linked so that messages
> posted to one are forwarded to the other.  I have no control over the
> newsgroup, but I do monitor the edstat list to limit spam and to keep
> the conversation on the topic of teaching statistics.  Some list members
> have expressed concern in private messages to me about the negative tone
> of much of the discussion on CR.  I am seriously considering screening
> out this conversation from the list.  This would have no effect on the
> newsgroup.  So that you will understand what many of us find offensive,
> here are some quotes from your most recent message:
>
> -----------
>
> I do not trust you or your pals.
>
> That way I will know you are not cheating or doing something incompetent.
>
> Its a matter of integrity and competence. You and you pals appear to
> lack both.
>
> Never was clear what you were doing, because your adolescent Oedipal
> strivings kept confusing the issues.
>
> I do not trust you.
> -----------
>
> If your messages continue to contain such insults, I will take action to
> screen future messages from the edstat list.  I'd like to emphasize
> again that this action would have no effect on the conversation on the
> newsgroup.
>
> Jackie Dietz
> Listowner
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>
 Ms Dietz,

Why are you allowing them to continually insult me and to make fraudulent
attempts to invalid CR?
I really do not trust these people after the way they have behaved. And they
are showing every indication of the psychopathic behavior of people with
Oedipal strivings. I have been compared with villians from James Bond
movies, my posts have been described as bullshit and I am continuously
confronted with posts that are contrived to mislead people. You have
apparently said nothing. I signed onto the newslist in order to alert people
to the fact that I had an article requested, accepted and rejected by the
journal SEM in a most unethical manner. The same people who are complaining
to you accused me of lying about that but have consistently refused to check
the evidence. You are allowing a hand ful of people to abuse me without
seeing that others also criticize the same people.

You can join the people on semnet and censor a legitimate statistical
procedure that has revolutionary implications. But you will not intimidate
me or force me to allow incompetent and dishonest delinquents to run
science. I have tried every strategy I can. I will be polite with them for
days and they will continue to abuse. I will simply state the numbers and
equations and they  abuse. I will quote prominent philosophers and
mathematicians and they abuse.  Why have you not put a stop to their
behavior?

Has a single person expressed concern about the fraudlent behavior of the
editors of SEM to you?  Do you care about the truth?

William Chambers




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