[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Heath) wrote in message 
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> Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> > On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:21:14 +0100, "Jacek Gomoluch"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > I have a question concerning the calculation of the confidence interval of
> > > the mean of a measured variable.
> > > 
> > > I am running several (m>30) simulation runs with same parameters but
> > > different random seeds. In each of these simulation runs, n samples (usually
> > > several thousand) of a measured variable are taken. In my simulations, the
> > > samples within each simulation run can not be assumed to be independent.
> > > However, according to the literature I read so far, the sample means of the
> > > different simulation runs are normally distributed (due to the central limit
> > > theorem). In the literature, it is assumed that the number of samples (n) is
> > > the same for each simulation run.
> > > 
> > > With this assumption the confidence interval of the mean is calculated by:
> > > 
> > > overall_sample_mean +/- z_value* ( standard_dev_of_the_sample means)
> > > 
> > > However, in my experiments the number of samples (n) is not the same for
> > > each simulation run, but slightly different (e.g. 3105, 2934, 3050,...).
> > > 
> > > My question: does this matter? Or can I still use the above formula?
> > 
> > I hope you are computing the  <SD_of_means>    by looking at 
> > those means as a set of numbers --  and *not*  by looking at 
> > the formula for Standard Error.
> > 
> > So, you can take the SD  of any set of numbers, and apply
> > the formula for their CI.  
> 
> In this case each number is a mean which has it's own CI. It seems to
> me that the grand CI should consist of two parts: That due to the
> spread of the individual measurements about the group mean and that
> due to the spread of the group means about the grand mean.
> 
> If not, what am I missing?

Oh.

The grand CI is *not* associated with E{ (xi-mu)^2 } (the spread of 
*individual* measurements, xi, about the population mean, mu.)

It is associated with

E{ (m0-mu)^2 } = s^2/N0

where

mu  =  population mean
s^2 =  population variance
N0  =  total number of measurements
m0  =  grand sample mean
    =  (1/N0)SUM(j=1,Ng){ Nj mj }
Ng  =  number of groups
Nj  =  number of measurements in the jth group
mj  =  sample mean of the jth group.

The population variance is estimated from

s0^2  =  [1/(N0-Ng)]SUM(j=1,Ng){ (Nj-1) sj^2 }

where

sj^2  =  sample variance of the jth group.

Hope this helps.

Greg
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