"Robert J. MacG. Dawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Albert le Curieux wrote: > > > > Hello > > I have to teach to med students a course on survival analysis with Excel > > only. Does somebody know some Excell macros I can use for testing and graphs > > ? > > May I suggest reading trhe excellent summary > > http://www.stat.uiowa.edu/~jcryer/JSMTalk2001.pdf > > and passing this on to whomever is requiring the use of Excel? > > -Robert Dawson ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- Much of Cryer's complaints, just don't hold up after deeply looking into them. I havre spent a lot of time on the issue of Excel's statistical capabilities, and am not able to support many of Cryer's complaints.
Albert Curiex has a problem that he will have to solve himself. He may have to learn vba and generate the macros/functions/subroutines himself in accordance with his textbook Other proffessors faced with using Excel (such as in a courrse on Structureal Equation Modeling) have generated appropriate slides, handouts, problems, add-ins and Excel worksheets to teach the students. Excel has a lot of advantages in teaching, since "how it works" is visable and traceable. All your commercial packages hide this. The student can't see how the solution is arrived at. There are at least 30 (est.) universities that have their own Excel add-in packages for their students, specific to the department, subject or course being taught. The IT revolution is here. Students to be competitive in tommorrow's workplace will have to be able to write their own programs in C++, Visual Basic or C# (or R or whatever else.....) besides being able use the full Office suite. Software vendors will have to provide software that interfaces with and provides the internal complexity to user "shells". I see Excel just like a cell phone. The complexity is all inside, hidden and able to be called up by the user when needed. There are graduate students out there that are pushing the boundaries and capabilites of SAS, AMOS, SPSS, LISREL, ...(Iand a lot of others that I can't recall now). David Heiser > . . ================================================================= Instructions for joining and leaving this list, remarks about the problem of INAPPROPRIATE MESSAGES, and archives are available at: . http://jse.stat.ncsu.edu/ . =================================================================
