Rich Ulrich wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 03 Jan 2004 16:23:33 GMT, "R. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Herman Rubin wrote:
> > >
> [ snip, original question]
> > >
> > > BTW, the earliest treatment I know for outliers was for
> > > astronomy and physics in the 19th century.  There, the
> > > effect of improperly discarding suspected outliers was
> > > primarily an affordable loss of efficiency, but biases also
> > > resulted.  The published values of the speed of light kept
> > > decreasing until really good observations were made, as the
> > > first values were high, and outliers were rejected, partly
> > > using previous experiments.
> >
> > IIRC there have been other cases of values of fundmental constants
> > and elementary particle parameters being determined to be well
> > outside of the "limits" set by earlier work.
> 
> Yes, but - to some extent - that is a bogus, misleading observation.
> 
> That is, the measurements were *effectively*  that precise;
> you could successfully use them as if they were that precise,
> in all those formulas that make use of the other constants.

Precise yes, accurate no.

> However, that whole set of "fundamental constants"  is
> reviewed, now and again.  There are relatively few experiments
> that offer evidence about one constant without relying on
> assumptions about the other constants -- or so I recall, from
> an excellent Scientific American article,  probably in 1986,
> about the CODATA revisions of that time.
> 
> Here is a recent page -
> 
>  http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/index.html?/codata86.html
> 
> --
> Rich Ulrich, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.pitt.edu/~wpilib/index.html
> "Taxes are the price we pay for civilization."

Thanks, Rich.  As a former theoretical physics student I'm familiar
with that.

Regards,
Russell
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