> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Nicholas Wheeler
> 
> >From a perspective of one of Jeffrey Elkner's former students, I can
> add my 1.2 cents. The method of teaching from the side is very good
> for those that are very motivated to learn computer programming, and
> it is those students who generally go to PyCon, on the other hand,
> there are also the students who take Computer Science as just another
> elective, and are not really motivated to learn too much, this must
> make teaching even harder. I'm glad I'm not a teacher.

I'm not a teacher either.  But don't know whether to be glad.

But I do think your point is not unrelated to a more general point.

That *how* to teach programming cannot be separated from the *why* to teach
programming.

Art

> 
> (Sorry Arthur, 'reply' doesn't reply to the list for some silly reason)
> 
> On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:37:47 -0500, Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jeffrey Elkner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 11:43 AM
> > > To: Arthur
> > >
> > > All the math teachers in my school system had a two week long workshop
> > > by Discovering Geometry author Michael Serra.  I left that experience
> > > with two ideas that I think about often:
> > >
> > > 1. Students learn best by doing, not by hearing.
> > > 2. Given 1, the teacher needs to move from being the "sage on the
> stage"
> > > to becoming the "guide on the side".
> > >
> > > "Guide on the side" sounds a lot like coaching to me ;-)
> >
> > Of course there is the risk of generalizing too far from what is true of
> the
> > study of geometry and of programming - or so it may seem from the
> > perspective of someone who claims a deeply felt relationship between
> these
> > studies.
> >
> > Art
> >
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