Hi Kirby,

Thanks for responding.

I'm fortunate in that in our school, there really isn't a stigma associated 
with being a good student.  The culture is really pretty good that way.  I 
would love to blame my problems on the kids but I think the problem is 
really me, and my unrealistic expectations about how long it really takes to 
begin to get a sense of what programs and programming are about.  Which 
brings me back to the questions:
1) how do you motivate typical kids to be interested enough in this to climb 
this particular hill? and
2) what is a reasonable set of things for them to learn in a 20-30 class 
hour unit on Python?

Thanks again,
    Andy

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