On Tue, 2005-10-18 at 15:31 -0500, Brad Miller wrote:
> I have not told them about Jython, mainly because my own impression
> was that Jython was not really going anywhere. I tried a couple of
> simple graphics programs that didn't work....
>
> After reading your message I went to www.jython.org and I still get
> mixed signals about whats happening. Apparently there is a new alpha
> release of Jython 2.2, but the Wiki is broken, the developer blog
> comes up blank. I don't see any plans about making Jython compatible
> with Python 2.4.x....
>
> If it does turn out that Jython becomes a thriving, active version of
> Python then I think it would be very interesting to investigate.
> Have you used Jython? What has been your experience? Maybe others
> are more in the know about the future prospects of Jython?
>
I didn't use Jython myself (beyond checking that 2+3 works) for lack of
need. Some months ago a co-worker asked me for advice on metaclasses in
Jython, which didn't work as they do inCPython 2.2+. After meditating
on the code for 2-3 weeks, I came up with the right 2-line fix -- the
worst lines/time ratio [1] in my life I suppose -- but one of the more
enlightening [2]. During my study, that file was heavily updated to
implement new-style classes in Jython's CVS and the problem was fixed
independently :-).
[1] "if we wish to count lines of code, we should not regard them as
"lines produced" but as "lines spent"" -- E.W.Dijksta
[2] Jython is quite mind-bending: turns out you can introspect the
Jython implementation from the Jython prompt! This is possible
because Java has introspection and Jython transparently access it
when doing things like dir().
I don't know what's up with the site not being updated, wiki and blog
down, etc... The last I see is the alpha release in the blog's cache
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.ziclix.com%
2Fbzimmer%2F
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