kirby urner wrote: >> It seems to me that efforts around education that are indigenous to >> Python and its community will almost necessarily be leveraging these >> qualities and thinking about words and about language more than about >> mouse clicks. > > > This is also true of the J community, which very explicitly ties to > English grammar in its pedagogy -- way more so than Python does.
I don't know, sometimes I think that Terrence and Philip better describes us as a duo then Itchy and Scratchy. a) I am not talking about English grammar. I am talking about a connection to the "language center" - in the what makes humans humans sort of way - and the way that something like Python can be connect to that center, as language. But having its own grammar - Dijkstra says that the search for the natural language programming language is another exploration to pursue for those who like dead-ends, and I believe him - , and connected to English in particular only to the extent it needs to be connected to something that is already language. b) I have done some J and it is hard to think of a programming language more abstracted away from natural language, i.e. less readable, and since I am talking about leveraging the existing strengths of an actual programming language - in this case Python - not sure how it comes up as in "yeah J as well". Whatever. Art _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
