Date: Wednesday, August 2, 2006 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: Re: [Edu-sig] Excited about Crunchy Frog
To: Arthur
Cc: John Zelle , edu-sig@python.org
> We're fighting different battles
Absolutely no doubt about it.
Its a shame really. I think that much of what you are proposing to propose
could find acceptance more readily if you were willing understand where
your ideas fit *within* the main stream, rather than insisting that they
transcend it.
I emphasize the Fuller stuff only because it is an example of you refusing to do
your homework, and sticking to your guns at the expense of good sense.
Your friend Snelson tells the story of having met Fuller at
Black Mountain and being inspired by him. But also the frustration of
the math faculty at Black Mountain at Fuller presenting certain ideas as his own,
or as revolutionary, when they were established mathematical ideas. All
available in the library. In my opinion, by taking those ideas out of their
historical context, and by de-academizing them, by Fullerizing them, you
are making them less, not more
We're fighting different battles - to be sure.
> He's militantly anti-technology
I am not.
> I read this, but it seemed mostly arguing against some straw man
> "technophile" who wants to destroy the university as we know it, and
> put professors out of business.
"""
In examining the role of information technology in higher education, I have found it
necessary to proceed in two steps: first deprogramming the millennialism that shapes
our thinking about technology and institutions, and then examining the values that
can and should inform our educational institutions.
"""
I am militantly anti-millennialist, so recognize a kindred spirit here.
And "de-programming" is, IMO, not a bad characterization of what we need
to be up to.
Technology has disrupted much - including a sense of history, and good sense itself.
Art
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