Arthur- Fair enough criticism of the critique, and thanks for the perspective. You made a very good point I will need to meditate on. Thank you.
Sadly, nothing about PataPata experiment really progressed far enough in terms of a user base to, in even just an "action research" experimental way, even begin to resolve the issue you raise. I'll have to muse on how one would even begin to construct an experiment to evaluate this axiom. --Paul Fernhout Arthur wrote: > Paul D. Fernhout wrote: > > >>For reference, the PataPata project is/was """an experiment to support >>educational constructivism on the Python platform, inspired by "Squeak" >>and "Self", but going beyond those in a Pythonic way.""" >> >> > > Was PataPata an experiment in education or an experiment in technology?? > > My own reaction was a strong desire to take it apart to see what made it > tick, but little interest in using it as intended - or said better, its > intent was never clear to me. Certainly not its *educational* intent.. > > Nothing about that is made clearer by reading your self-critique. > > I think that the real introspection that is necessary in order for you > to better apply your technical expertise to the matter of education > would be in regard to some of the underlying assumption you are making > about "educational constructivism", particularly as that relates to the > use of technology, and more particularly as it relates to use of the GUI.. > > IOW, I think the real issues are at the level of your axioms, not your > implementation > > Sure there is a strong school-of-thought that would support your > axioms. What that school-of-thought seems to rally around, it sometimes > seems to me, is hostility to the notion that devotion to these axioms > needs to re-examined every few decades. > > That is the self-critique I would like to be reading, anyway. > > Art > > > > _______________________________________________ > Edu-sig mailing list > Edu-sig@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig > > _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig
