I think you're spot on about the "advantage over the poor" thing, as our stronger public schools have a parent base that will fund and support Linux labs, whereas where my daughter goes, they can't afford enough chairs for the cafeteria, everyone has to spill out into Burgerville and Wendy's for some reason, fancy that (maybe some programming involved, some proprietary source we don't see?).
But in Portland, it's a given that Linux is woven into our culture. We have theatrical events around open source (e.g. Ignite...! at the Bagdad) http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/872418/ Torvalds lives here. We're the capital of open source, or is that Oregon City? So yeah, Portland is a rich city, very little sign of any economic downturn, lots of starving in the hinterlands per usual, because a lot of us learned a callous, neglectful, neo-Malthusian economics in public school, as that's what our grandfather's fathers thought made the most sense (Malthus was a London School of Economics geek, did his best to play world game without Google Earth, poor slob). My plan is to fly to Chicago and help bring those midwesterners up to speed, on the assumption my counterparts "back east" are handling New York, HQS of our BFI and so on. Actually, it's much smaller potatoes, not renting that blimp, just chatting with my peers, already "on the inside" in education (met a lot of you last year), and well position to help with the steering, keeping us moving towards a brighter tomorrow, wherein kids learn that "math is an extensible type system" and have Python right there on their desktops (with tons of other fun toyz), to drive that point home. My co-conspirators on this one are Steve Holden, a Gandalf in Python Nation (very high rank), and Ian Benson (some kind of Elf? -- not one of ours quite, sociality.tv ). These are both highly skilled guys (XY) and it's a real privilege to work with 'em, brings some balance to my day jobs, where I mostly work with highly skilled gals (XX). My HR chief, Suzanne, is like the smartest person alive, and Wicca wise (senior partner for whom DWA is named, my partnership, files and IRS 1065, business alias 4D Solutions per US Bank records, 4D Studios another moniker... I could go on). I guess my advice to the Obama team would be to avoid any "one size fits all" attempts to converge to some "national curriculum" like many do in Europe. Each of the 50 states needs breathing room and none of them need Washington DC to be bossing them around like they're slaves of some central know-it-all. We're a Federation, and this was never a monarchy. This is even more pronounced in my case for example, out here on the west coast. My reality includes such as Angel of the Winds, Spirit Mountain... Kahneetah, huge IT centers with state of the art software, leave Google in the dust in terms of sophistication in some ways. All very proprietary though, you'll probably never see the inside of these IT temples unless you get the tour before they open (how Mormons do it). Yes, I'm talking casinos, strategically positioned within semi-sovereign nations that reinvest profits rather wisely, and for the long haul, earning lots of community good will -- an economic asset even in troubled times. In sum, I feel confidant that the Silicon Forest has much to offer the Chicagoans, plus I was actually born there, so it's like another homecoming for me (only got into the city once last year, Pycon being in the outskirts, near O'Hare, still managed to miss my plane though, ended up driving all night with GPS to find Indiana, Pennsylvania where Jimmy Stewart was from). http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000071/ Kirby On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 6:57 AM, David MacQuigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Kirby, > > This is very well written appeal, but in this mailing list, you may be > preaching to the choir. What I would like to see is a discussion of *why* > there is not more teaching of programming in high school. I can't seem to > get an answer from the few high-school teachers and students I have asked. I > suspect it has something to do with requiring all kids to have their own > computers, not wanting the rich to have an advantage over the poor, etc. > I've thought about teaching high school myself, but the bureaucracy seems > overwhelming. > > At 11:37 AM 12/6/2008 -0800, kirby urner wrote: > > >... > > > >As such a manager, I'm frustrated with the schooling around here, but > rather than just whine and complain, I get access to classrooms and start > showing off how it might really be done, were those of my breed allowed to > interact with the kids (rarely happens, rules prevent -- even though I've > been cleared at the state level to work with kids, with fingerprinting and > everything, same as any union teacher). > > > >But among peers, fellow geeks, this is more just an excuse to tell some > company war stories, share Python source, and enjoy the science fiction > feeling of being in a culture that *we* had designed, rather than muggles, > i.e. those who don't know what SQL means, even after enduring like four > years of "mathematics" pre-college (not they're fault -- SQL doesn't make it > past the relevance filters, gotta learn more about factoring polynomials, > like you'll need on the job (snicker)). > > > >What if circus performers designed your gym class? It wouldn't be like it > is. What if Pythonistas taught your junior how to program math objects, > like vectors and polynomials. Why, he'd grow up employable, ready to > rumble, ready for work, maybe without even going to college right away (that > could come later, on the company's dime maybe). As a parent, you'd be > pleased. Finally, junior is excited about hard fun, programs just for the > love of it (pretty freakish). > > > >... > > > >Kirby Urner > >4Dsolutions.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Edu-sig mailing list > Edu-sig@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig >
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