So does the new turtle canvas save to a PNG, using PIL maybe, or do we still need to hack that?
I think wxPython's canvas has PIL output, but it's been awhile. Robin Dunn's work was a topic with Synovate for a thread, me bungling the answer about EMF files, Patrick getting it right (he's the master, I'm the stoopid noob in a qyoob). The reason I ask is we're wanting 7-circuit labyrinth drawings for Junior Friends (youngish Quakers), meaning we can't get federal funding exactly, but FOSS to the rescue maybe. I could see turtles for drawing and turtles for walking. A labyrinth isn't a maze by the way, has only the one path. What's important is to get the classic curves, although you'll find many variations and I'm not thinking to squelch ethnic diversity (on the contrary). http://www.hypnosis.org/catalog/images/ClassicLeftHanded.gif http://www.labyrinthcompany.com/view_series.php?category_id=1&series_id=5 Anyway, if anyone runs across the right Logo (I could translate to .py)... or I might get to it. My wife led workshops on this topic, at Annual Session in South Africa for example, using chalk and/or lime on the grass -- the stuff used for soccer fields and like that. Did I mention how excited Archbishop Tutu is about the World Cup coming there? He was in Portland the other night, blogged about it. http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2009/05/time-for-reconciliation.html Putting on PSF cap: I got to watch the process wherein NiceTime came through for a second look, this being a UK based initiative to use Python directly in maths teaching, but with a lower age range in focus. It didn't go through, could post mortem ad nauseum but from my angle had to do with low name recognition on Gattegno, especially on this side of Atlantic, as confirmed by this card catalog lookup: http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157...@n00/3522646219/ Sea turtles in VPython, other OpenGL, remain of interest, i.e. we'd like to draw Icosahedra with turtle commands. I've done a lot of this work on my own, publishing through Oregon Curriculum Network, e.g. the L-system stuff. Although I've not had time to get back to it, I know we have another generation looking for ways to cut teach, and 4D Logo is one way to go (4D is a brand, though we could also talk dimensions sometime, on another list maybe). http://www.4dsolutions.net/ocn/numeracy3.html (scroll down for L-systems, turtle-based) I've had some followup threads with SAO (an Oregon industries lobby) plus all three invoices out the door today were Python related, so I feel good about our ethnicity today, like being a Pythoneer (yes, Pythonista is starting to default to female gendered, fight it if you like but Latin carries a lot of inertia -- discuss?). Does anyone else like "goose typing" for "even more loosey goosey than duck typing"? Meeting of Portland Pythonistas tonight (...fighting back). Our topic: distributing version control systems, woo hoo (love that hg). Is that Litvins' book cover too scary? I said I thought it might be in one email, as many people are already afraid of math, so adding a snake on the front maybe doesn't help matters? Looking at it again, I take it back. More like southwestern American bead work, showing of "geometry in nature" (a well-known meme in math circles, so students should embrace it, not run from it). http://www.skylit.com/mathandpython.html Snakes (including ours in particular) connote intelligence and wisdom. Athena has a Python familiar / friend per Nashville HQS -- one to remember I think, good for our brand: http://www.flickr.com/photos/17157...@n00/3526413823/ (photo by Mary Welchance) Kirby 4D _______________________________________________ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig