Kirby: you are right... and I am not talking about a coup.
I am saying that I sent a request to the list owner asking for help so that my messages can get to the list. I got no response... the follow-on seems to be: * identify if the email address for the owner is still active * identify if the owner is still interested/able to do the job * if no... either correct the address OR * find a new owner (or better new owners) so that the list is maintained... This morning, I also reached out to the maintainers of the mailing list system as a whole: mail...@python.org postmas...@python.org to see if anyone can troubleshoot why my messages are not getting through. right now, checking the edu-sig archive, everyone's in this thread (you, jeff, andre, etc) are getting through. I am the only one that isn't making it... sigh. chalmer Chalmer Lowe, MS http://projecteuler.net/profile/threelowelifes.png Level 1 On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:29 AM, kirby urner <kirby.ur...@gmail.com> wrote: > Off hand, I'm not taking "not hearing from the listowner" as a reason to > change ownership. > > Hypothetically, the listowner was appointed by the BDFL sometime in the > murky past. I long ago accepted life in a benevolent dictatorship. > > Kirby > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 9:22 AM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.l...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> If we aren't hearing from the list owner, I would be happy to take that >> ... If we can get the over arching maillist admins to make that change, I >> am happy to help. (After making a thorough effort to reach out to Wilson >> directly, of course!) >> >> Chalmer >> On Jan 8, 2015 7:15 AM, "kirby urner" <kirby.ur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Looks good. >>> >>> I don't think we've ever heard from listowner Wilson on this list. We >>> do get good spam filtering I think. >>> >>> I've put in a request to be at the upcoming Pycon but I don't think it's >>> been approved. I was unable to attend last year. >>> >>> Edu-wise my focus believe or not has been the Python community in >>> Bangalore, actually IT more generally, but women more specifically. >>> >>> Long story on math-teach. I try not to duplicate too much of what I >>> post. >>> >>> Kirby >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 8:37 AM, Andre Roberge <andre.robe...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> Hoping *my* message will make it to the edu-sig list ... >>>> >>>> Please read the important announcement from Chalmer Lowe below. >>>> >>>> @Jeff: any chance you could investigate the mailing list issue and >>>> ownership? I never did so myself when I was maintaining the edu-sig page >>>> ... and perhaps I should have. >>>> >>>> André >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.l...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> SNIP >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have attempted to reach out to the edu-sig on four occasions to >>>>> advertise to them that the Edu Summit was coming. >>>>> >>>>> On two occasions, I sent edu-sig messages to the distro with a full >>>>> rundown on the details, but neither of them made it through. I reached out >>>>> to wilson at visi.com, who is purportedly the owner of the edu-sig >>>>> distro for assistance in late December, but got NO response. >>>>> >>>>> I thought it was potentially due to some sort of spam filtering, >>>>> especially since my posts included links and comments such as 'sign up', >>>>> etc. so over the past several days, I have tried to send very simple test >>>>> messages to the edu-sig mailing list, all to no avail. >>>>> >>>>> I am on the distro and get messages from it, but can't send to it. I >>>>> see that you can send to the distro... so if you would be so kind as to >>>>> assist and wouldn't mind posting the following to the edu-sig distro (at >>>>> least until I get my account problems worked out), I would be most >>>>> grateful >>>>> for the help... >>>>> >>>>> <start>--------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> For those who wish to go to the Python Education Summit please feel >>>>> free to sign up at the EventBrite Link... There was an error and the >>>>> invite-only caveat is not applicable in years past, so please feel free to >>>>> sign up and tell your friends. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-pycon-2015-education-summit-tickets-15029161627 >>>>> >>>>> The Pycon Description of the Summit: >>>>> https://us.pycon.org/2015/events/edusummit/ >>>>> >>>>> For the current list of proposed talks... see our Google Moderator >>>>> Site >>>>> http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=211b44 >>>>> >>>>> And of course, we are always looking for people willing to help out: >>>>> >>>>> http://pycon.blogspot.com/2014/12/looking-for-volunteers-pycon-2015.html >>>>> <end>--------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Edu-sig mailing list >>>> Edu-sig@python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig >>>> >>>> >>> > Chalmer Lowe, MS http://projecteuler.net/profile/threelowelifes.png Level 1 On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:40 AM, Jeff Elkner <j...@elkner.net> wrote: > I just emailed Tim Wilson as well. I don't expect a response (since > Andre didn't get one), but I wanted to cover that base before making > further inquiries. I am of the opinion that edu-sig could be a > valuable resource for us, and we ought to do what we can to bring it > back on-line. > > I'm going to email the PSF list to ask who I can contact about perhaps > taking over from Tim. > > Thanks! > > Jeff > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Andre Roberge <andre.robe...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > Hoping *my* message will make it to the edu-sig list ... > > > > Please read the important announcement from Chalmer Lowe below. > > > > @Jeff: any chance you could investigate the mailing list issue and > > ownership? I never did so myself when I was maintaining the edu-sig > page > > ... and perhaps I should have. > > > > André > > > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Chalmer Lowe <chalmer.l...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > SNIP > >> > >> > >> I have attempted to reach out to the edu-sig on four occasions to > >> advertise to them that the Edu Summit was coming. > >> > >> On two occasions, I sent edu-sig messages to the distro with a full > >> rundown on the details, but neither of them made it through. I reached > out > >> to wilson at visi.com, who is purportedly the owner of the edu-sig > distro > >> for assistance in late December, but got NO response. > >> > >> I thought it was potentially due to some sort of spam filtering, > >> especially since my posts included links and comments such as 'sign up', > >> etc. so over the past several days, I have tried to send very simple > test > >> messages to the edu-sig mailing list, all to no avail. > >> > >> I am on the distro and get messages from it, but can't send to it. I see > >> that you can send to the distro... so if you would be so kind as to > assist > >> and wouldn't mind posting the following to the edu-sig distro (at least > >> until I get my account problems worked out), I would be most grateful > for > >> the help... > >> > >> <start>--------------------------------------------- > >> > >> For those who wish to go to the Python Education Summit please feel free > >> to sign up at the EventBrite Link... There was an error and the > invite-only > >> caveat is not applicable in years past, so please feel free to sign up > and > >> tell your friends. > >> > >> > http://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-pycon-2015-education-summit-tickets-15029161627 > >> > >> The Pycon Description of the Summit: > >> https://us.pycon.org/2015/events/edusummit/ > >> > >> For the current list of proposed talks... see our Google Moderator Site > >> http://www.google.com/moderator/#16/e=211b44 > >> > >> And of course, we are always looking for people willing to help out: > >> > http://pycon.blogspot.com/2014/12/looking-for-volunteers-pycon-2015.html > >> <end>--------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > > >
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