On Sunday, November 27, 2016, kirby urner <kirby.ur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:12 AM, Adam Morris <amor...@mistermorris.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','amor...@mistermorris.com');>> wrote: > >> It depends on whether or not we are wishing to teach future computer >> scientists, in which case having a stack with different languages makes >> sense. > > >> However, in a general education middle school and high school context, >> where we are not assuming that, I think we should stick with one language >> to standardize upon, with other options being considered a “challenge” (and >> not the default). The IB Diploma Program asks students to write in >> pseudo-code, which is an awful lot like Python. >> >> RosettaCode - http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Java - http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Python RPython - Docs: http://rpython.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ - Docs: http://rpython.readthedocs.io/en/latest/glossary.html - Docs: http://rpython.readthedocs.io/en/latest/translation.html PyPy - Src: https://bitbucket.org/pypy/pypy ... - International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) - Logic - Asm - HLA - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Level_Assembly - recompile for different OS - OS Kernel > Bytecode - "compiler", "interpretor" https://github.com/pybee/voc "A transpiler that converts Python bytecode into Java bytecode." > Q: Does any institution have the authority to mandate a singular language > and if so what institution would that be? > > A: You've already answered that in the IB sphere it's pseudo-code (not > runnable on any existing virtual machine) and I believe Java still reigns > supreme in US AP/CS world, though I could well be out of date and not know > it. Feel free to update me, anyone. > From: https://wrdrd.com/docs/consulting/software-development#computer-science-curricula ACM Computer Science Curricula 2013: Curriculum Guidelines for Undergraduate Degree Programs in Computer Science (December 20, 2013) https://www.acm.org/education/CS2013-final-report.pdf From: https://wrdrd.com/docs/consulting/educational-testing#ap e.g. AP Computer Science - Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_Computer_Science - http://apcentral.collegeboard.com/apc/public/courses/teachers_corner/4483.html - https://apstudent.collegeboard.org/apcourse/ap-computer-science-a - ThinkJava: http://greenteapress.com/thinkjava6/html/ - Worth noting that, IIUC, the AP Computer Science test was written before "K12 CS Framework". https://k12cs.org (2016) > I expect we'll see a continuation of competing approaches, reminiscent of > McDonalds versus Burger King, or Coke versus Pepsi, wherein different > "paths to success" get advertised and spread around (franchised). That > seems to be the pattern. > > > > The (Python + JS) synergy looks promising at the moment in part because of > Jupyter Notebooks (yes, a small niche, but a potentially important), which > notebook technology is now friendly with sister kernels. > > > > Code schools that stay more strictly with JavaScript, as the one language > you really need, are likely to remain popular. Lets celebrate diversity. > The market reminds me of the one for martial arts schools in some ways. > > These "code schools" are not "high schools" per se but may have an impact > thereon. For some they're seen as an alternative to CS and college. > > https://medium.freecodecamp.com/so-that-whole-coding- > bootcamp-thing-is-a-scam-right-6fddf14087d4 > > - OpenBadges ("credentials") https://openbadges.org ... schema.org/Credential discussions in the schema.org/Course development GitHub Issue thread: https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/195 - Ctrl-F for "credential", '"blockchain", ... Programmer Competency Matrix http://sijinjoseph.com/programmer-competency-matrix/ https://competency-checklist.appspot.com/ https://github.com/hltbra/programmer-competency-checklist ... I can read e.g. learnxinyminutes.com for a given language, but that doesn't mean I have demonstrable experience in a language; so the work outputs (e.g. projects, ) are helpful. ... > I'm aware of the Bootstrap initiative -- not talking about Twitter CSS -- > and its Pyret language, still under development: an example of another > subculture in the making. I'd like to know more. I was on the Pyret > listserv until recently, but realized it wasn't geared for meta level > discussions. > > Q&A in mailinglists, issue tickets, q&a forums -> reviews - q&a: questions & answers - stackoverflow, stack exchange Q&A forums often have separate meta-level thread resource collections: http://meta.stackoverflow.com - osqa, askbot (django) - https://github.com/ASKBOT/askbot-devel - code review - PullRequest comments (GitHub, GitLab, BitBucket, Gerrit, ReviewBoard (Python, Django)) - DNS cert (*.domain, meta.domain) - letsencrypt.org > > Here in Silicon Forest, around today's high and middle schools you'll find > a subculture looking at Scratch (not so much Logo) as a prelude to > JavaScript in a browser, with Python closely on its heels. Chromebooks are > big. > > How to IPython JS and Python with Jupyter Notebook AND a Chromebook would be great. - Jupyter Google Drive - https://github.com/jupyter/jupyter-drive - Docker - Chromebook: Crouton, https://gist.github.com/christianbundy/ba62890a7c2f8128bcbb - Docker pool (spawner, authenticator) on a different server > That's just one way to go among many. Convergence to any one approach > isn't necessarily in the cards. I don't foresee any "winner take all" > curriculum on the horizon. > The practices and concepts of k12cs.org feed the ACMCurriculum. Practically, free online course sequences that are self-paced like KhanAcademy.org and CodeCademy.com/learn are often easier to deep link to than the college and university courses listed in https://www.class-central.com/subjects > Kirby > > >
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