Thanks for all the great ideas. If I never fix the problem, I'm certainly
learning a lot.
Alas, the saga continues. I think I've zapped all of the partitions. At
least, when I list them from fdisk, it says there are no partitions, and 100
GB of free space.
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1. Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Michael Steigerwald)
2. RE: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Simon Ruiz)
3. RE: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Simon Ruiz)
4. Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Bryan Quigley)
5. Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice? (Scott Ledyard)
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 11:15:54 -0600
From: "Michael Steigerwald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
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I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or XP. I created an
NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a new error when I
tried
to install Windows.
I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can find any hard
drives
to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had to reformat the
whole
disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't even see the NTFS
partition.
I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get into the vanilla
(ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I need to use, e.g,
Norton, for?
TIA for any ideas.
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:24:27 -0500
From: "Simon Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
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Windows assumes it will be the only Operating System on the disk, and so
if the partition you intend to install it to ISN'T the first partition on
the first hard disk, this may be why it won't accept it as an valid install
partition. I'm sure there is a way to coax it to work when installing it
second, but there are quite a few extra little complications to deal with.
I'd suggest starting over and installing Windows first. This is the only
way I've ever done it, myself.
Best of luck!
Sim?n
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Steigerwald
Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or XP. I created an
NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a new error when I tried
to install Windows.
I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can find any hard
drives to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had to reformat
the whole disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't even see the
NTFS partition.
I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get into the vanilla
(ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I need to use, e.g,
Norton, for?
TIA for any ideas.
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:07:43 -0500
From: "Simon Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
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You could probably boot to the Live CD, run "sudo gparted" from the
commandline to bring up the partition editor and delete all the partitions.
Or perhaps you could "dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda" to zero out the entire
hard disk. *shrug* However, if Windows can't see a hard disk right now, I'm
not sure what would make it do so, if you're certain the hard disk is
plugged into the primary master position.
Best of luck!
Sim?n
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From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:52 PM
To: Simon Ruiz
Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
I'm pretty sure it must be. I can boot into edubuntu just fine.
Is there some way from edubuntu or the CD that I can somehow reformat or
wipe the CD to make the Windows CD happy again?
TIA
On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Are you sure the hard disk is plugged into the hda (hd0) position
on the motherboard? That's all I can think of.
There is nothing I am aware of that any Linux distribution could
do to keep the Windows Installation CD from thinking there isn't a hard
disk.
Best of luck!
Sim?n
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From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:36 PM
To: Simon Ruiz
Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
Actually, that's the conclusion I came to, but I can't even start
over until I can figure out why the XP CD thinks there are no hard drives to
install to. Is there something in edubuntu I can 'undo' or completely
reformat the drive?
On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Windows assumes it will be the only Operating System on the
disk, and so if the partition you intend to install it to ISN'T the first
partition on the first hard disk, this may be why it won't accept it as an
valid install partition. I'm sure there is a way to coax it to work when
installing it second, but there are quite a few extra little complications
to deal with.
I'd suggest starting over and installing Windows first.
This is the only way I've ever done it, myself.
Best of luck!
Sim?n
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of
Michael Steigerwald
Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or
XP. I created an NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a new
error when I tried to install Windows.
I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can find
any hard drives to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had to
reformat the whole disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't even
see the NTFS partition.
I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get
into the vanilla (ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I need
to use, e.g, Norton, for?
TIA for any ideas.
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Michael Steigerwald
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 13:32:45 -0500
From: "Bryan Quigley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
To: "Simon Ruiz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Could it be a SATA drive that Windows doesn't have the drivers for? That
would create the case where edubuntu can see the drive but XP can't.
Have you installed XP on this machine before?
-Bryan
On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> You could probably boot to the Live CD, run "sudo gparted" from the
> commandline to bring up the partition editor and delete all the
partitions.
> Or perhaps you could "dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hda" to zero out the
entire
> hard disk. *shrug* However, if Windows can't see a hard disk right now,
I'm
> not sure what would make it do so, if you're certain the hard disk is
> plugged into the primary master position.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Sim?n
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:52 PM
> To: Simon Ruiz
> Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
>
>
> I'm pretty sure it must be. I can boot into edubuntu just fine.
>
> Is there some way from edubuntu or the CD that I can somehow reformat or
> wipe the CD to make the Windows CD happy again?
>
> TIA
>
>
> On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Are you sure the hard disk is plugged into the hda (hd0)
position
> on the motherboard? That's all I can think of.
>
> There is nothing I am aware of that any Linux distribution could
> do to keep the Windows Installation CD from thinking there isn't a hard
> disk.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Sim?n
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Michael Steigerwald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:36 PM
> To: Simon Ruiz
> Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
>
>
> Actually, that's the conclusion I came to, but I can't even
start
> over until I can figure out why the XP CD thinks there are no hard
drives to
> install to. Is there something in edubuntu I can 'undo' or completely
> reformat the drive?
>
>
> On 2/26/07, Simon Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Windows assumes it will be the only Operating System on
the
> disk, and so if the partition you intend to install it to ISN'T the
first
> partition on the first hard disk, this may be why it won't accept it as
an
> valid install partition. I'm sure there is a way to coax it to work when
> installing it second, but there are quite a few extra little
complications
> to deal with.
>
> I'd suggest starting over and installing Windows first.
> This is the only way I've ever done it, myself.
>
> Best of luck!
>
> Sim?n
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf
of
> Michael Steigerwald
> Sent: Mon 2/26/2007 12:15 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
>
>
> I'm trying to set up my ThinkPad to boot into edubuntu or
> XP. I created an NTFS partition after I installed edubuntu, but got a
new
> error when I tried to install Windows.
>
> I booted from the XP Pro CD, and it claims that it can
find
> any hard drives to install to. I wouldn't be too disappointed if I had
to
> reformat the whole disk, but I'm surprised that the install CD can't
even
> see the NTFS partition.
>
> I know that edubuntu uses the GRUB loader, but I can get
> into the vanilla (ThinkPad) BIOS just fine. Did I corrupt something I
need
> to use, e.g, Norton, for?
>
> TIA for any ideas.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Michael Steigerwald
> 4041 12th Ave S.
> Minneapolis, MN 55407-3239
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> 651.261.2098
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2007 21:58:36 -0500
From: "Scott Ledyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dual boot (XP) best practice?
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I'd go with the previous post from Simon that says:
> You could probably boot to the Live CD, run "sudo gparted" from the
> commandline to bring up the partition editor and delete all the
partitions.
This same thing happened not long ago to me. Just zap all partitions and
reboot from the Win CD to reinstall. You don't have to establish an NTFS
partition. Windows doesn't care if the disk is blank. It just doesn't want
active partitions.
BTW, a handy, fast booting CD to have around is GParted all by itself.
Never
think about using Partition Magic again. It's available at
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/download.php
Scott
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