Hi Jordan, I always wondered how useful that manual is since software and hardware are always evolving. Do you have a sense of this? I don't have the technical knowledge to confidently judge this. Which sections might be better? Which to avoid? Thanks, David
On May 17, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Jordan Erickson wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Paper size for printing would be handled in CUPS configuration for > each > printer you have. Keyboard layout is normallly handled by the lts.conf > option "XKBDLAYOUT" (see page 51 of the LTSP manual available at: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/ltsp/files/Docs-Admin-Guide/ > LTSPManual.pdf/download > ) > > > > Sincerely, > Jordan > > > > On 05/16/2010 11:28 PM, ps wrote: >> Hello - How can I set a global configuration (e.g. paper size, >> area-specific keyboard layout, etc.)? >> >> Any hint is appreciated! >> >> Paul >> >> >> [email protected] wrote: >>> Send edubuntu-users mailing list submissions to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> [email protected] >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of edubuntu-users digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Re: edubuntu-users Digest, Vol 48, Issue 9 (ps) >>> 2. Re: edubuntu-users Digest, Vol 48, Issue 9 (David Groos) >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 23:17:47 +0300 >>> From: ps <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: edubuntu-users Digest, Vol 48, Issue 9 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>> >>> Dear List >>> >>> About 10.04 ltsp, I wrote a while ago about the problembut so far >>> there >>> was response that would help in any way. However, I found that if >>> you >>> nstall 9.10 and then upgradeto 10.04 ltsp at least tries to work by >>> giving thin client an ip address but no image. It seems that >>> there is no >>> tc image ready and you have to create it first and place it in the >>> correct folder. Then it should work. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> [email protected] wrote: >>>> Send edubuntu-users mailing list submissions to >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of edubuntu-users digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Re: ltsp-gui (Peter) >>>> 2. Re: Mentoring for improving wiki pages? (David Groos) >>>> 3. Re: ltsp-gui (dbclinton) >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> --- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 11:27:42 +0000 (UTC) >>>> From: Peter <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: ltsp-gui >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>> >>>> dbclinton <dbclin <at> gmail.com> writes: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Working on the assumption that there are probably other people >>>>> just as >>>>> dumb as I am and that this might be useful for a circle wider >>>>> than just >>>>> me, where did the ltsp gui go on edubuntu 10.04? It was under >>>>> "applications/other" while I was running a live CD session (and it >>>>> worked perfectly there), during the actual install (from live >>>>> CD) I saw >>>>> a desktop icon, but once I'd rebooted into the OS, both the >>>>> menu item >>>>> and the desktop icon had disappeared (not to mention my >>>>> configurations >>>>> from the live CD session). >>>>> I searched Edubuntu Menu Editor and Synaptic to no avail and >>>>> played >>>>> around in Terminal, getting some kind of response with "sudo >>>>> ltsp-install" - but nothing effective. >>>>> I could always do it the old-fashioned way as in past installs, >>>>> but I am >>>>> at least curious as to where the GUI has gone. >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> I was very impressed when I ran the edubuntu 10.04 live cd and >>>> had clients >>>> working at a press of a button. So I was rather disappointed to >>>> find I had to >>>> install ltsp from scratch to get it working once I installed edu >>>> 10.04 on my >>>> server. So add me to the dumb list, especially if there is a >>>> script somewhere >>>> that I missed. I have ltsp working on ubuntu 9.04 with fat >>>> clients and want to >>>> set up on edubuntu 10.04 but I'm not sure if I just do it the >>>> same way as before >>>> or if the set-up is different with 10.04. I guess I will just >>>> try and see what >>>> happens. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 19:42:32 -0500 >>>> From: David Groos <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: Mentoring for improving wiki pages? >>>> To: Sim?n Ruiz <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: [email protected], ubuntu-education >>>> <[email protected]>, Edubuntu Users Group >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> Gavin and Sim?n thanks for your offers to help me write some good >>>> pages--I'll take you up on all of it, starting with the iTALC. >>>> Also, thanks >>>> for the history--something which I think is important to >>>> include, briefly, >>>> in the wiki as well. Hopefully, others in the community with >>>> additional >>>> knowledge, both from a programming and implementation- >>>> perspective, will >>>> chime in as needed. >>>> >>>> For starters, it would be a great time-saver on my part if >>>> people would >>>> direct me to good reference articles on iTALC for Ubuntu (I know >>>> it's used >>>> with Windows as well but I'm not focusing on that). I of course >>>> could do a >>>> google search on iTALC (done it many times, actually), however, >>>> I don't know >>>> what is outdated or applies to the areas of interest. The info >>>> I'm looking >>>> for is: >>>> --History of the project >>>> --Accuracy of the ubuntu page on italc (it says it is only good >>>> for Hardy) >>>> --Differences between versions for Hardy, Jaunty, Karmic, Lucid >>>> (I'll be >>>> focusing on Jaunty, Karmic, Lucid) >>>> --Successful applications of iTALC >>>> --CURRENT issues--limitations--with iTALC. >>>> --Theory on iTALC. >>>> >>>> Any favorite links or mini-lessons would be much appreciated! >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> David >>>> >>>> PS--Sounds like we need a tutorial on installing Edubuntu/LTSP >>>> from recent >>>> list-server e-mails--it's not that people are dumb, it's that >>>> wiki pages >>>> need improving! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Sim?n Ruiz >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:37 PM, David Groos >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just turned in my final last night for my statistics class >>>>>> so can now >>>>>> dedicate some more time to edubuntu, again, and, teaching will >>>>>> be out for >>>>>> the year in just about 4 weeks. Like many users of edubuntu, >>>>>> I need help >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>>> install/upgrade/troubleshoot/fix things. One key resource for >>>>>> self-help >>>>>> >>>>> is >>>>> >>>>>> the wiki. People have been working hard to improve it as a >>>>>> whole. I'm >>>>>> suggesting to choose maybe a dozen 'hot spots'--topics that >>>>>> are critical >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>>> make edubuntu work in a school setting, and make great wiki >>>>>> pages on >>>>>> >>>>> them. >>>>> >>>>>> A perfect example of what I'm talking about is the work of >>>>>> Gavin and his >>>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ >>>>>> ThinClientHowtoNAT page. >>>>>> >>>>> While >>>>> >>>>>> it is true that 3 other people have also improved that page, >>>>>> Gavin made a >>>>>> big effort to make sure this critical task was CLEARLY and >>>>>> thoroughly >>>>>> explained. There is no such thing as perfect but there is >>>>>> excellent and >>>>>> that page is. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've spent I don't know how many hours battling iTALC and >>>>>> alkisg has >>>>>> >>>>> spent >>>>> >>>>>> at least 2 or 3 hours trying to help me. He one time groaned >>>>>> when I told >>>>>> him that I had followed the directions on the wiki. These >>>>>> might have >>>>>> >>>>> been >>>>> >>>>>> pretty good for Hardy, but I had Jaunty and just hoped it >>>>>> would work; it >>>>>> didn't, nor does it still. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are some possible 'sticky points'. There might be some >>>>>> good wiki >>>>>> >>>>> pages >>>>> >>>>>> on them now, but when I first tackled these tasks, they were >>>>>> lacking. >>>>>> >>>>> They >>>>> >>>>>> are critical to many school setups. >>>>>> >>>>>> --iTALC setup >>>>>> --Basic squid proxy setup >>>>>> --Localapps setup >>>>>> --Backup System >>>>>> --using flash >>>>>> --using java >>>>>> --setting up file-sharing systems for one's classes >>>>>> >>>>>> I need to understand iTALC and make it work. I would be more >>>>>> than happy >>>>>> >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>>> polish this iTALC wiki page. I'll need mentoring, a lot at >>>>>> the start, >>>>>> >>>>> but a >>>>> >>>>>> great wiki page saves time for everyone and helps edubuntu >>>>>> users feel >>>>>> confident. Is there anyone who knows iTALC that would serve >>>>>> as my >>>>>> >>>>> technical >>>>> >>>>>> mentor on this wiki page? What would you add to or remove >>>>>> from the list >>>>>> >>>>> of >>>>> >>>>>> sticky points? >>>>>> >>>>> I had quite a bit of experience with iTALC back in 2006, in >>>>> fact the >>>>> article I wrote back then on compiling iTALC from source for >>>>> Dapper >>>>> < >>>>> http://indianalinux.blogspot.com/2007/02/howto-install-italc- >>>>> from-source-on.html >>>>> >>>>> is still, according to Google Analytics, the single most visited >>>>> article on my somewhat comatose blog. >>>>> >>>>> My big problem was simply that there weren't up to date iTALC >>>>> packages >>>>> for Ubuntu, and building from source gave me that. >>>>> >>>>> I was working on just "normal" Desktops, though, so I have >>>>> *absolutely* no experience with iTALC on LTSP. (no experience with >>>>> LTSP yet, really) >>>>> >>>>> Still, I may be able to help if your questions are basically just >>>>> iTALC-related. What problems are you having? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> David G >>>>>> >>>>> Sim?n R >>>>> >>>>> P.S. Just in case you're unaware: iTALC 1.x development ground >>>>> to a >>>>> halt as the developer (a college student who codes in his free >>>>> time) >>>>> works on version 2.0. The latest version, 1.0.10, was just >>>>> released >>>>> after a couple of years break, and it pretty much just includes >>>>> bug >>>>> fixes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/ >>>> attachments/20100515/76f6057b/attachment-0001.htm >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 23:37:42 -0400 >>>> From: dbclinton <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: ltsp-gui >>>> To: Peter <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>> Message-ID: <1273981062.1820.11.ca...@rishon> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> Here's what I discovered about my problem: >>>> My best guess is that ltsp failed to properly install (during >>>> the actual >>>> hard disk install process) because it couldn't get past my proxy >>>> server. >>>> Now, while in the live CD gui, I had configured my proxy info >>>> including >>>> authentication, but that information doesn't seem to have been >>>> passed to >>>> the actual installed system (I know that because I had to set it >>>> again >>>> once the install was done). >>>> Here's what I did to install ltsp on the HD (thanks to the guys >>>> a irc >>>> #edubuntu - if you don't have a proxy server, ignore the "export >>>> http..." line): >>>> First: >>>> use synaptic to install ltsp-server-standalone (NOT ltsp-server, >>>> but >>>> ltsp-server-standalone!) >>>> Then, from terminal: >>>> sudo -i >>>> export >>>> http_proxy=http://[yourproxyusername]:[proxypassword]@ >>>> [proxyipaddress]:[proxyport]/ >>>> ltsp-build-client >>>> Good luck >>>> >>>> On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 11:27 +0000, Peter wrote: >>>> >>>>> dbclinton <dbclin <at> gmail.com> writes: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> Working on the assumption that there are probably other people >>>>>> just as >>>>>> dumb as I am and that this might be useful for a circle wider >>>>>> than just >>>>>> me, where did the ltsp gui go on edubuntu 10.04? It was under >>>>>> "applications/other" while I was running a live CD session >>>>>> (and it >>>>>> worked perfectly there), during the actual install (from live >>>>>> CD) I saw >>>>>> a desktop icon, but once I'd rebooted into the OS, both the >>>>>> menu item >>>>>> and the desktop icon had disappeared (not to mention my >>>>>> configurations >>>>>> from the live CD session). >>>>>> I searched Edubuntu Menu Editor and Synaptic to no avail and >>>>>> played >>>>>> around in Terminal, getting some kind of response with "sudo >>>>>> ltsp-install" - but nothing effective. >>>>>> I could always do it the old-fashioned way as in past >>>>>> installs, but I am >>>>>> at least curious as to where the GUI has gone. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I was very impressed when I ran the edubuntu 10.04 live cd and >>>>> had clients >>>>> working at a press of a button. So I was rather disappointed to >>>>> find I had to >>>>> install ltsp from scratch to get it working once I installed >>>>> edu 10.04 on my >>>>> server. So add me to the dumb list, especially if there is a >>>>> script somewhere >>>>> that I missed. I have ltsp working on ubuntu 9.04 with fat >>>>> clients and want to >>>>> set up on edubuntu 10.04 but I'm not sure if I just do it the >>>>> same way as before >>>>> or if the set-up is different with 10.04. I guess I will just >>>>> try and see what >>>>> happens. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 16:37:40 -0500 >>> From: David Groos <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: edubuntu-users Digest, Vol 48, Issue 9 >>> To: ps <[email protected]> >>> Cc: [email protected] >>> Message-ID: >>> <[email protected]> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> Thanks for your continued effort at communicating your >>> experiences with >>> this. Personally, I've not yet gotten to try and install Lucid >>> with LTSP >>> and thus don't have much to say but, 'good luck!' :) Well >>> actually I was >>> working on it, got repeatedly stymied and have put it on the back >>> burner >>> till the school year is out and I've got more time to address it. >>> >>> Have you seen this >>> page<https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ >>> LTSPQuickInstall#Installing%20on%20top%20of%20an%20already% >>> 20running%20desktop%20system>? >>> It's not so easy to find but I've heard it's up to date with Lucid. >>> This page <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP> is the >>> mother-load >>> of LTSP-related links... though of course of varying states of >>> up-to-datedness. >>> >>> What has been your experience searching for needed info related to >>> installing Lucid/Edubuntu? >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 3:17 PM, ps <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear List >>>> >>>> About 10.04 ltsp, I wrote a while ago about the problembut so >>>> far there >>>> was response that would help in any way. However, I found that >>>> if you >>>> nstall 9.10 and then upgradeto 10.04 ltsp at least tries to work by >>>> giving thin client an ip address but no image. It seems that >>>> there is no >>>> tc image ready and you have to create it first and place it in the >>>> correct folder. Then it should work. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>> Send edubuntu-users mailing list submissions to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users >>>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >>>>> specific >>>>> than "Re: Contents of edubuntu-users digest..." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Today's Topics: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Re: ltsp-gui (Peter) >>>>> 2. Re: Mentoring for improving wiki pages? (David Groos) >>>>> 3. Re: ltsp-gui (dbclinton) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> ---- >>>>> >>>>> Message: 1 >>>>> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 11:27:42 +0000 (UTC) >>>>> From: Peter <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: ltsp-gui >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>>>> >>>>> dbclinton <dbclin <at> gmail.com> writes: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> Working on the assumption that there are probably other people >>>>>> just as >>>>>> dumb as I am and that this might be useful for a circle wider >>>>>> than just >>>>>> me, where did the ltsp gui go on edubuntu 10.04? It was under >>>>>> "applications/other" while I was running a live CD session >>>>>> (and it >>>>>> worked perfectly there), during the actual install (from live >>>>>> CD) I saw >>>>>> a desktop icon, but once I'd rebooted into the OS, both the >>>>>> menu item >>>>>> and the desktop icon had disappeared (not to mention my >>>>>> configurations >>>>>> from the live CD session). >>>>>> I searched Edubuntu Menu Editor and Synaptic to no avail and >>>>>> played >>>>>> around in Terminal, getting some kind of response with "sudo >>>>>> ltsp-install" - but nothing effective. >>>>>> I could always do it the old-fashioned way as in past >>>>>> installs, but I am >>>>>> at least curious as to where the GUI has gone. >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I was very impressed when I ran the edubuntu 10.04 live cd and had >>>> clients >>>>> working at a press of a button. So I was rather disappointed to >>>>> find I >>>> had to >>>>> install ltsp from scratch to get it working once I installed >>>>> edu 10.04 on >>>> my >>>>> server. So add me to the dumb list, especially if there is a >>>>> script >>>> somewhere >>>>> that I missed. I have ltsp working on ubuntu 9.04 with fat >>>>> clients and >>>> want to >>>>> set up on edubuntu 10.04 but I'm not sure if I just do it the >>>>> same way as >>>> before >>>>> or if the set-up is different with 10.04. I guess I will just >>>>> try and see >>>> what >>>>> happens. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 2 >>>>> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 19:42:32 -0500 >>>>> From: David Groos <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: Mentoring for improving wiki pages? >>>>> To: Sim?n Ruiz <[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: [email protected], ubuntu-education >>>>> <[email protected]>, Edubuntu Users Group >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Message-ID: >>>>> >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>>>> >>>>> Gavin and Sim?n thanks for your offers to help me write some good >>>>> pages--I'll take you up on all of it, starting with the iTALC. >>>>> Also, >>>> thanks >>>>> for the history--something which I think is important to include, >>>> briefly, >>>>> in the wiki as well. Hopefully, others in the community with >>>>> additional >>>>> knowledge, both from a programming and implementation- >>>>> perspective, will >>>>> chime in as needed. >>>>> >>>>> For starters, it would be a great time-saver on my part if >>>>> people would >>>>> direct me to good reference articles on iTALC for Ubuntu (I >>>>> know it's >>>> used >>>>> with Windows as well but I'm not focusing on that). I of >>>>> course could do >>>> a >>>>> google search on iTALC (done it many times, actually), however, >>>>> I don't >>>> know >>>>> what is outdated or applies to the areas of interest. The info >>>>> I'm >>>> looking >>>>> for is: >>>>> --History of the project >>>>> --Accuracy of the ubuntu page on italc (it says it is only good >>>>> for >>>> Hardy) >>>>> --Differences between versions for Hardy, Jaunty, Karmic, Lucid >>>>> (I'll be >>>>> focusing on Jaunty, Karmic, Lucid) >>>>> --Successful applications of iTALC >>>>> --CURRENT issues--limitations--with iTALC. >>>>> --Theory on iTALC. >>>>> >>>>> Any favorite links or mini-lessons would be much appreciated! >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> David >>>>> >>>>> PS--Sounds like we need a tutorial on installing Edubuntu/LTSP >>>>> from >>>> recent >>>>> list-server e-mails--it's not that people are dumb, it's that >>>>> wiki pages >>>>> need improving! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Sim?n Ruiz >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:37 PM, David Groos >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I just turned in my final last night for my statistics class >>>>>>> so can now >>>>>>> dedicate some more time to edubuntu, again, and, teaching >>>>>>> will be out >>>> for >>>>>>> the year in just about 4 weeks. Like many users of edubuntu, >>>>>>> I need >>>> help >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>>> install/upgrade/troubleshoot/fix things. One key resource for >>>> self-help >>>>>> is >>>>>> >>>>>>> the wiki. People have been working hard to improve it as a >>>>>>> whole. I'm >>>>>>> suggesting to choose maybe a dozen 'hot spots'--topics that are >>>> critical >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>>> make edubuntu work in a school setting, and make great wiki >>>>>>> pages on >>>>>>> >>>>>> them. >>>>>> >>>>>>> A perfect example of what I'm talking about is the work of >>>>>>> Gavin and >>>> his >>>>>>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ >>>>>>> ThinClientHowtoNAT page. >>>>>>> >>>>>> While >>>>>> >>>>>>> it is true that 3 other people have also improved that page, >>>>>>> Gavin made >>>> a >>>>>>> big effort to make sure this critical task was CLEARLY and >>>>>>> thoroughly >>>>>>> explained. There is no such thing as perfect but there is >>>>>>> excellent >>>> and >>>>>>> that page is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've spent I don't know how many hours battling iTALC and >>>>>>> alkisg has >>>>>>> >>>>>> spent >>>>>> >>>>>>> at least 2 or 3 hours trying to help me. He one time groaned >>>>>>> when I >>>> told >>>>>>> him that I had followed the directions on the wiki. These >>>>>>> might have >>>>>>> >>>>>> been >>>>>> >>>>>>> pretty good for Hardy, but I had Jaunty and just hoped it >>>>>>> would work; >>>> it >>>>>>> didn't, nor does it still. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here are some possible 'sticky points'. There might be some >>>>>>> good wiki >>>>>>> >>>>>> pages >>>>>> >>>>>>> on them now, but when I first tackled these tasks, they were >>>>>>> lacking. >>>>>>> >>>>>> They >>>>>> >>>>>>> are critical to many school setups. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --iTALC setup >>>>>>> --Basic squid proxy setup >>>>>>> --Localapps setup >>>>>>> --Backup System >>>>>>> --using flash >>>>>>> --using java >>>>>>> --setting up file-sharing systems for one's classes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I need to understand iTALC and make it work. I would be >>>>>>> more than >>>> happy >>>>>> to >>>>>> >>>>>>> polish this iTALC wiki page. I'll need mentoring, a lot at >>>>>>> the start, >>>>>>> >>>>>> but a >>>>>> >>>>>>> great wiki page saves time for everyone and helps edubuntu >>>>>>> users feel >>>>>>> confident. Is there anyone who knows iTALC that would serve >>>>>>> as my >>>>>>> >>>>>> technical >>>>>> >>>>>>> mentor on this wiki page? What would you add to or remove >>>>>>> from the >>>> list >>>>>> of >>>>>> >>>>>>> sticky points? >>>>>>> >>>>>> I had quite a bit of experience with iTALC back in 2006, in >>>>>> fact the >>>>>> article I wrote back then on compiling iTALC from source for >>>>>> Dapper >>>>>> < >>>>>> >>>> http://indianalinux.blogspot.com/2007/02/howto-install-italc- >>>> from-source-on.html >>>>>> is still, according to Google Analytics, the single most visited >>>>>> article on my somewhat comatose blog. >>>>>> >>>>>> My big problem was simply that there weren't up to date iTALC >>>>>> packages >>>>>> for Ubuntu, and building from source gave me that. >>>>>> >>>>>> I was working on just "normal" Desktops, though, so I have >>>>>> *absolutely* no experience with iTALC on LTSP. (no experience >>>>>> with >>>>>> LTSP yet, really) >>>>>> >>>>>> Still, I may be able to help if your questions are basically just >>>>>> iTALC-related. What problems are you having? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> David G >>>>>>> >>>>>> Sim?n R >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S. Just in case you're unaware: iTALC 1.x development ground >>>>>> to a >>>>>> halt as the developer (a college student who codes in his free >>>>>> time) >>>>>> works on version 2.0. The latest version, 1.0.10, was just >>>>>> released >>>>>> after a couple of years break, and it pretty much just >>>>>> includes bug >>>>>> fixes. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> URL: >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/attachments/ >>>> 20100515/76f6057b/attachment-0001.htm >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Message: 3 >>>>> Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 23:37:42 -0400 >>>>> From: dbclinton <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: ltsp-gui >>>>> To: Peter <[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: [email protected] >>>>> Message-ID: <1273981062.1820.11.ca...@rishon> >>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> Here's what I discovered about my problem: >>>>> My best guess is that ltsp failed to properly install (during >>>>> the actual >>>>> hard disk install process) because it couldn't get past my >>>>> proxy server. >>>>> Now, while in the live CD gui, I had configured my proxy info >>>>> including >>>>> authentication, but that information doesn't seem to have been >>>>> passed to >>>>> the actual installed system (I know that because I had to set >>>>> it again >>>>> once the install was done). >>>>> Here's what I did to install ltsp on the HD (thanks to the guys >>>>> a irc >>>>> #edubuntu - if you don't have a proxy server, ignore the "export >>>>> http..." line): >>>>> First: >>>>> use synaptic to install ltsp-server-standalone (NOT ltsp- >>>>> server, but >>>>> ltsp-server-standalone!) >>>>> Then, from terminal: >>>>> sudo -i >>>>> export >>>>> http_proxy=http:// >>>> [yourproxyusername]:[proxypasswo...@[proxyipaddress]:[proxyport]/ >>>>> ltsp-build-client >>>>> Good luck >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 2010-05-15 at 11:27 +0000, Peter wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> dbclinton <dbclin <at> gmail.com> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> Working on the assumption that there are probably other >>>>>>> people just as >>>>>>> dumb as I am and that this might be useful for a circle wider >>>>>>> than just >>>>>>> me, where did the ltsp gui go on edubuntu 10.04? It was under >>>>>>> "applications/other" while I was running a live CD session >>>>>>> (and it >>>>>>> worked perfectly there), during the actual install (from live >>>>>>> CD) I saw >>>>>>> a desktop icon, but once I'd rebooted into the OS, both the >>>>>>> menu item >>>>>>> and the desktop icon had disappeared (not to mention my >>>>>>> configurations >>>>>>> from the live CD session). >>>>>>> I searched Edubuntu Menu Editor and Synaptic to no avail and >>>>>>> played >>>>>>> around in Terminal, getting some kind of response with "sudo >>>>>>> ltsp-install" - but nothing effective. >>>>>>> I could always do it the old-fashioned way as in past >>>>>>> installs, but I >>>> am >>>>>>> at least curious as to where the GUI has gone. >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I was very impressed when I ran the edubuntu 10.04 live cd and >>>>>> had >>>> clients >>>>>> working at a press of a button. So I was rather disappointed >>>>>> to find I >>>> had to >>>>>> install ltsp from scratch to get it working once I installed >>>>>> edu 10.04 >>>> on my >>>>>> server. So add me to the dumb list, especially if there is a >>>>>> script >>>> somewhere >>>>>> that I missed. I have ltsp working on ubuntu 9.04 with fat >>>>>> clients and >>>> want to >>>>>> set up on edubuntu 10.04 but I'm not sure if I just do it the >>>>>> same way >>>> as before >>>>>> or if the set-up is different with 10.04. I guess I will just >>>>>> try and >>>> see what >>>>>> happens. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> edubuntu-users mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edubuntu-users/attachments/ >>> 20100516/90ea9bd0/attachment.htm >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >> > > > -- > Jordan Erickson > (707) 636-5678 - http://www.logicalnetworking.net > * Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail * > > -- > edubuntu-users mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/ > listinfo/edubuntu-users -- edubuntu-users mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-users
