I've been busy with 'other stuff' but did find a major issue I had with iTALC. In some previous attempt I had made the classroom setting persistent as per the ubuntu wiki page. And, thinking I had done a complete uninstall and other excuses I can't think up at the moment I didn't think to go back to this. When I finally realized this, deleted the [path] line, my iTALC worked normally again! That was a relief and I think this problem affected me more than 1 time over the last year. I added this troubleshooting info to the wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc.
alkisg told me about a series of scripts that sound great that he uses instead of iTALC so I'm going to give them a try. I'll be writing instructions on doing these tasks instead of iTALC unless I move back to using iTALC. Over the next few days I'm going to be working on setting up a Lucid LTSP server. I'll try and improve the wiki/edubuntu pages as I go through this process. I'll I'll try and think like a beginner (shouldn't be too hard). I'll start another thread for these endeavors. Again, I'll be working on these things and more: > > --LTSP install > --Basic squid proxy setup > --Localapps setup > --Backup System > --using flash > --using java > --setting up file-sharing systems for one's classes > David On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 7:42 PM, David Groos <[email protected]> wrote: > Gavin and Simón thanks for your offers to help me write some good > pages--I'll take you up on all of it, starting with the iTALC. Also, thanks > for the history--something which I think is important to include, briefly, > in the wiki as well. Hopefully, others in the community with additional > knowledge, both from a programming and implementation-perspective, will > chime in as needed. > > > For starters, it would be a great time-saver on my part if people would > direct me to good reference articles on iTALC for Ubuntu (I know it's used > with Windows as well but I'm not focusing on that). I of course could do a > google search on iTALC (done it many times, actually), however, I don't know > what is outdated or applies to the areas of interest. The info I'm looking > for is: > --History of the project > --Accuracy of the ubuntu page on italc (it says it is only good for Hardy) > --Differences between versions for Hardy, Jaunty, Karmic, Lucid (I'll be > focusing on Jaunty, Karmic, Lucid) > --Successful applications of iTALC > --CURRENT issues--limitations--with iTALC. > --Theory on iTALC. > > Any favorite links or mini-lessons would be much appreciated! > > Thanks! > David > > PS--Sounds like we need a tutorial on installing Edubuntu/LTSP from recent > list-server e-mails--it's not that people are dumb, it's that wiki pages > need improving! > > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Simón Ruiz <[email protected]>wrote: > >> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 5:37 PM, David Groos <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Hi All, >> > >> > I just turned in my final last night for my statistics class so can now >> > dedicate some more time to edubuntu, again, and, teaching will be out >> for >> > the year in just about 4 weeks. Like many users of edubuntu, I need >> help to >> > install/upgrade/troubleshoot/fix things. One key resource for self-help >> is >> > the wiki. People have been working hard to improve it as a whole. I'm >> > suggesting to choose maybe a dozen 'hot spots'--topics that are critical >> to >> > make edubuntu work in a school setting, and make great wiki pages on >> them. >> > >> > A perfect example of what I'm talking about is the work of Gavin and his >> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ThinClientHowtoNAT page. >> While >> > it is true that 3 other people have also improved that page, Gavin made >> a >> > big effort to make sure this critical task was CLEARLY and thoroughly >> > explained. There is no such thing as perfect but there is excellent and >> > that page is. >> > >> > I've spent I don't know how many hours battling iTALC and alkisg has >> spent >> > at least 2 or 3 hours trying to help me. He one time groaned when I >> told >> > him that I had followed the directions on the wiki. These might have >> been >> > pretty good for Hardy, but I had Jaunty and just hoped it would work; it >> > didn't, nor does it still. >> > >> > Here are some possible 'sticky points'. There might be some good wiki >> pages >> > on them now, but when I first tackled these tasks, they were lacking. >> They >> > are critical to many school setups. >> > >> > --iTALC setup >> > --Basic squid proxy setup >> > --Localapps setup >> > --Backup System >> > --using flash >> > --using java >> > --setting up file-sharing systems for one's classes >> > >> > I need to understand iTALC and make it work. I would be more than >> happy to >> > polish this iTALC wiki page. I'll need mentoring, a lot at the start, >> but a >> > great wiki page saves time for everyone and helps edubuntu users feel >> > confident. Is there anyone who knows iTALC that would serve as my >> technical >> > mentor on this wiki page? What would you add to or remove from the list >> of >> > sticky points? >> >> I had quite a bit of experience with iTALC back in 2006, in fact the >> article I wrote back then on compiling iTALC from source for Dapper >> < >> http://indianalinux.blogspot.com/2007/02/howto-install-italc-from-source-on.html >> > >> is still, according to Google Analytics, the single most visited >> article on my somewhat comatose blog. >> >> My big problem was simply that there weren't up to date iTALC packages >> for Ubuntu, and building from source gave me that. >> >> I was working on just "normal" Desktops, though, so I have >> *absolutely* no experience with iTALC on LTSP. (no experience with >> LTSP yet, really) >> >> Still, I may be able to help if your questions are basically just >> iTALC-related. What problems are you having? >> >> > David G >> >> Simón R >> >> P.S. Just in case you're unaware: iTALC 1.x development ground to a >> halt as the developer (a college student who codes in his free time) >> works on version 2.0. The latest version, 1.0.10, was just released >> after a couple of years break, and it pretty much just includes bug >> fixes. >> > >
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