Thanks, James. Better than nothing. Although since I and others made a good effort to take notes, it is a pity if we lost it.
I don't who to ask to solve this pad server problem. Unfortunatly when I tried to save on meta, the Internet at the conference didn't allow it. I was going to use the hostel Internet, which luckly is better than the hotel, but I couldn't access the pad. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:42 PM, James Salsman <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is Wikimedia pad server down? Yesterday I tried to access and it didn't > > load. I was going to save on the wiki. I tried to do at the conference, > but > > my Internet access was not allowing me to edit wikis. > > > > Have someone saved it? > > My last version is below. > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Sophie Österberg > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> /Sophie > >> > >> (skickat ifrån en alldeles fantastisk Android) > >> > >> Den 18 apr 2013 09:13 skrev "Everton Zanella Alvarenga" > >> <[email protected]>: > >>> > >>> http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/eduleadersworkshop > ... > > Education Program Leaders Worskhop, April 2013 > Around 35 participants. > > Agenda: > http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Education_Program/Education_Program_Leaders_Workshop_2013#Agenda > > * Rod Dunican Global Education Program Director > **Main topics: Wikipedia and Education > * LiAnna Davis Global Education Program Communications Manager > > 9:15-10:30 Introductions > 5 minutes to introduce yourself. > > # Gabriel Thullen, Wikimedia CH. Professor in junior highschool. > Students use Wikipedia and I teach them how to use it, how it works, > how Wikipedia is a reference. Students can contribute themselves to > understand how it works. Teacher training and explaing how teachers > can use Wikipedia. WMF wants to know the metrics of what we do; I > don't know. One year it can be 120 students; but students forget their > username, password, you have difficulties to monitor the results. > # Charles Andrès. Wikimedia CH, chair. Professor in university > (Biology, University of Neuchâtel); teachining Wikipedia to students, > how to use wikipedia but also how to edit wikipedia as a new suport > for school work. The chapter Wikimedia CH is supporting Wikimini. We > receive a lot of requests from schools and universities and we are > planning to recruit a person to take care of it. > # Fernanda Campagnucci. Wikimedia Brazil / Ação Educativa. > Journalist, coordinator of the Observatory on Education - a program > held by the NGO Ação Educativa - and researcher in education at the > University of Sao Paulo. We are discussing with WMF to become a local > partner; as an office and as a partner to develop joint projects. We > have been working as an association for 20 years (advocacy, public > policies, literacy, collaborations with schools/teachers/students). We > identify with the Wikimedia mouvment with which we share principals. > # Eva Lepik. Wikimedia Estonia. We just started our programme. We are > discussing with the ministry, to see how to integrate Wikipedia in the > Estonian education policies. > # Daniel Mietchen (for Wiki Project Med). We are all involved in > education: lectures in universities, collaborations with journals > (scientific journals), collaborations with professional societes > related to medicine. > # Iolanda Pensa, Wikimedia Italy/Wikimedia CH. Developing projects > with Creative Commons and Wikipedia. Wikipedia Primary School. > # Mathias Damour, Wikimedia France. I am one of the promoter of > Vikidia, http://vikidia.org an encyclopedia for 8-15 years old kids > (at the moment French, Italian and Spanish). Articles are written for > a specific target. I proposed on meta ([[m:Wikikids]]) that the > project is recognised among the Wikimedia projects. Some people say > that Wikipedia is too difficult for children; so vikidia can be a good > tool for younger readers. Children provide their feedback on the > vikidia. > # Jeromy Yu Chan, Hong Kong. Very wide use of Wikipedia but there is > the need to have more contributors, to better understand how Wikipedia > works. References and footnotes are an effective way to involve > students. Now all the volunteers in Hong Kong are trapped in the > Wikimania organisation. Potential collaborations: Government subsidide > programme; support for digital disadvantage students; ICT teacher > association in the directly subsidied schools (private scate schools > with support of the government). > # Claudia Garad, Wikimedia Austria. Managing director at Wikimedia > Austria. Collaboration with univiersities, presentations in schools. > We don't have a strucutred programme at the moment and we would like > to develop it. > # SusikMkr, Wikimedia Armenia. People are busy all time. Collaboration > with two universities. Students are contributing but it is dififcult > to include Wikipedia in the teaching process. This is what we want to > do. Activites in highschool; with training every month. Lectures in > different cities but it is difficult to reach them and to. Activities > of the volunteers are possible on saturday and sunday but this is > obviously a problem in collaborating with univerisities. > # Filipe, Wikimedia Serbia. Slide with years and institutions > (faculties of university and highschools); growing collaborations. We > started in 2006 with a pioneer programme developed directly by > volunteers. We develop our activites with presentations, ICT-wiki > skills development and practicals (exercises on articles). Articles > are related to school subjects. We needed to create a policy with the > community and we created an academia board (with 4 members). we > implemented a collaboration with primary school, to train teachers. > References/copyright are the most difficult part of an articles. We > need to adapt our training to the differnet target (highschool > students, university students, teachers...). > # Mile, Wikimedia Serbia. Please refer above. > # Mohammed Alghbban, Saudi Arabia. Our focus is on translations. From > English to Arabic and from Arabi to English. We work in university: > workshops for students (publishing, editing), always with a focus on > translations. > # Sami Bin Slimah, Saudi Arabia. Chair of the English department. > # Thomaz D., Wikimedia Poland. They had a lot of programs on how to > edit Wikipedia. Programme in primary, secondary school (focus on > editing articles about local geography and issus; some effective and > some )and university. > # X, Wikipedia Poland. We have a programme for highschool; the > highschools actually came to us. We have documentation and we have > several projects. We don't have a specific educational programme. > # Chris. Hong Kong. He is working for Wikimania. Please refer to the > presentation of Jeromy Yu Chan, Hong Kong. > # Vojtěch Dostál, Wikimedia Czech republic. Student of biology. Many > articles have been written with volunteer work with the support of > ambassadors (teachers pairs). We ask teachers or we support teachers > who want to contribute. And we encourage students to contribute (and > not being afraid of contributing). We are connected with social media > (Facebook, Twitter) and helping students online. > # Everton Zanella Alvarenga (Tom), WMF (consultant). > http://educacao.wikimedia.org. We started with activities in India and > I am working in the programmes in Brazil - wondered why India is not > here. Education projects should have mid to long terms goals, if you > try to make it quickly, you will likely fail. He believes sharing the > information and the experiences is really the way we can enhance the > educational programme as a whole. There is not only Wikipedia; other > projects can be targeted. In Brazil we are collaborating with about 15 > university professors; we made a call in the second phase of the > pilot. In certain places is difficult to implement the programme only > with volunteer work. We are producing and translating resources and > online training (videos, trainslations, documentation in Portuguese) > so that the program can become sustainable. Encouraging translations > with a collaboration with a university focus on it based on the > success of Egypt. The Education Program is also going to try to > revitalise the WikiProject of Medicine in partner with the Ministry of > Heath. > # Antanana, Wikimedia Ukraine. There is a coordinator of the > educational programme. We implement workshops (coordinator is our > executive director); official collaboratons with universities (with > MOU memorandum of understanding - agreements). The official agreements > are useful because teachers feel they need to have a written > authorisation to assign Wikipedia articles to their students. Every > university has a wikiproject page on the Ukrainan Wikipedia and > templates associated to the university. In March 2013 a short-term > internship could be implemented on Wikipedia (Wikipedia as the exam). > Slide with metrix (universities, years, articles, media coverage). > # Cornelia Trefflich, Wikimedia DE. Slides. Different targets > (highschool, universities, also "generation 50+"). Activities with > collaborations, workshops, lectures, resources. The approach need to > change according to the different tagets. It is difficult to defnine > what does editor engagment mean. We mainly focus on Wikipedia rather > than other projects. We mainly have short-term initiatives which have > difficulty to produce long-term impact. Our goal is to increase > diversity (how to engage people, thematic grpups, collaborations with > less conventional institutions...) > # Tim Moritz, Wikimedia DE. A major issue is to work on the long-term > impact. How to support engament. Different approaches in different > languages. We need to concentrate also on what happens online after > the training. > # Dimce Grozdanoski/brest, President of Wikimedia Macedonia. > Collaborations with professors in university and individual faculties > like Faculty of Information science, Faculty of Philosophy, Philology > and Faculty of Economics from University in Skopje, Education Faculty > from University in Shtip, Faculty of IT from University in Bitola and > other. From the beggining of this year, we start some presentations of > wikipedia/wikimedia projects to teachers in highschools/secondary > schools and we have with very good feedback. We started wiki projects > in many highschools (groups of 15-20 students work on wikisessions and > they list and select articles to improuve and edit; often articles > related to local culture/geography). > # Kiril Simeonovski, WIkimedia Madedonia. > # Jan Ainali Wikimedia SE, CEO. As Estonia we are working to > collaborate with the ministry to include Wikipedia in school > programmes. Identiifying early adopters and support them. Starting an > Amabassadors programme. Have an online course for educators on > Wikiversity. Programme with imigrants to help the teachers in working > with them; The programme includes writing articles in their own > language about Swidish culture. > # Kalman Hajdu, Wikimedia Hungary. Education in Hungary is very > conservative. We had collaborations with professors but difficulties > in involving them. In secondary school we have occasional lectures. > # Nidal Yousef, Jordan. I work at university. We started a programme > in university. We collaborate wiht 15 highschools with the association > of teachers. We develop activities in collaboration with our > organisation related to Arabic language. We also created groups (5-10 > students each group). We collaborate with a course related to ICT in > university to include how to write an article within the programme. > # Faris El-Gwely, Egypt. WMF consultant. Consultant for WMF. Programme > in Cairo. Now we are in 4 countries (Egpy, Soudi Arabia, Jordan, > Algeria) Our aim is to increase articles in Wikipedia in Arabic. > # Ad Huikeshoven, Wikimedia Netherlands. We are consdering if > Wikimedia NL should hire a person to coordinate the programme, what > should be his/her skills and what could be the objective of such a > program. We have a volunteer editor very active on Wikiversity asking > for support to grow the project. (Wikikids.nl exist for several years. > Wikikids is targeted for primary schools. The project runs on its > own.) > # Wikimedia Israel. University using Wikipedia for their assignments. > Training for teachers and now establishing a collaboration with the > ministry of education. Support to teachers and workshops with students > (in particular highschool). > # Brian/Biosthmors. Ambassador in the US educational programme. > Working on the Wiki med project. > # Ganesh Paudel. Nepal. We don't have a specific programme for > education but we have activities in universities. > # Toni Sant, Wikimedia UK. Joined as a part-time member of staff in > London 4 weeks ago so still fairly new to the job of Education > Organizer. Main focus is currently on a conference we're planning in > the UK (Oct 31-Nov 1), which will be the second EduWiki conference. We > also have other projects, of course, which you can see at > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_projects (but some of this work > is in flux as we adjust to having a member of staff in the UK working > directly on Education). EduWiki 2013 details available at > http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/EduWiki_Conference_2013 > I'm also Director of Research at the University of Hull in Scarborough > (which is in the North of England). Students at this university have > been editing Wikipedia as one of their assessment exercises since > 2010. So this experience is brought to the work I'm now doing for > WMUK. > # Leigh Thelmadatter, Monterrey Institute of Technology and Superior > Studies, Mexico City Campus I have worked with Wikimedia in my > classes since 2007. This semester I work with medical English students > who are writing articles in English. The campus library has sponsored > two foto contests for students with results into Commons Also > students do community service requirements with Wikipedia (undergrad > and International Baccalaureate CAS) > More info at > http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_Portal/Projects_and_Programs/ITESM-Campus_Ciudad_de_M%C3%A9xico > 10:50-11:10 Break > > 11:20-12:30 Support each other? > How can we share the information? How can we support each other? > * Translations > * Videoconferencing facilities -- enabling us to support each other > across distances. > * Online trainning > * Resources for the education program world wide (share the code!) > * Writing skills development > * Critical thinking (evaluting articles) > * Research skills (references, footnotes, sources) > * Collaboration (online collaborations, offline collaborations); how > to work with students on distance (not only students in one place but > in multiple places at the same time) > * the focus of the WMF is on US and Canada; now it will be really > global (WMF will recuit staff). > * create a cooperative: to exchage ideas, documentations, programmes... > * Expectations are different: some people want to work with small > groups; others want to extend their programmes and work on > large-scale. > > > === Support from the WMF === > * 11h34 - LiAnna explanation: > ** Shared set of resources (brochures focussed on Wikipedia as an > assiment and a teaching tool): she can share the InDesign code of > these resources or ship them to countries (in English) - > http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_Portal/Tips_and_Resources > *** > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Instructor_Basics_How_to_Use_Wikipedia_as_a_Teaching_Tool.pdf > (green) > *** > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sample_Syllabus_for_Wikipedia_assignment.pdf > (blue) > ** Hands-on support (meetings, communication, exchanges, intervews, blog > posts) > ** More close support to Egypt (Faris) and Brazil (Tom) because it is > a WMF program > ** Mediawiki extensions for students (allows to trace the contribution > of students on Wikipedia in English) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Courses > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_Program:University_of_Western_Ontario/Writing_for_the_Web_(WI13) > ** Translations; Mediawiki extension for translators. > ** Courses list: MediaWiki extension for the education program: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Courses > ** Online trainings (for students, instructurs and ambassadors). An > online training to guarantee scalability. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Training/For_students > (Sage Ross developer of many of those tools and online consultant) > 3 > === Questions/Challenges === > 1) How to decentralize the support? > 1.a) @ LiAnna: if everybody in the Wikimedia movement begin to contact > her, will she have time to support everybody? How to decentralize this > kind of support? > > 2) How to have the courses extension (see here > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Courses>) on our local > Wikipedia? > > 3) How to improve the support from the WMF? > 3.a) How to improve the support from other local groups involved in > the Wikimedia Education Program? > 3.b) How to provide answers in a way that it is not a one-to-one > relationship with WMF? > > 4) How to form a network of people involved in this education program? > > 5) Education mailing list problems: > Does the ed listserve work? Ive signed up a couple of times and I > still receive nothing > Re: ed mailing list: Who are you? for me it works with 2 e-mails? Tom > Im Thelmadatter I cant get this program to connect this color with my name > Re: Please, send an e-mail to the list owners > [email protected] telling your problem. I hope they > can quickly fix this. > Ive done that too.. Have a response saved but still nothing > Re: Well, I manage some mailings lists, but I don't know how to solve > in this particular case. I will try to speak to people here tho. > I appreciate that! > > 7) Time. How to find the time? How to make the volunteer time > efficient? How to be scalable as WMF team? the WMF will more or less > remain the same but it has to do more and more. > > 7) Knowing what the students are doing is different from getting > information on what the chapters are doing. > > 8) There are different perspectives involved. What students, chapters, > teachers, wikipedians, wikimedians, the WMF expect is different. > Dynamics of credibility, long-term impact, success of students, > success of programmes... > 8.a) True, who in the program in SF is an educator by profession? > (Add your name) None, I believe, is the answer. > (Tom) For Brazil: I barely believe in most things most experts of > education says. ;D #kidding #OrNot I hope I am wrong tho. > (Fernanda) Hey, Tom! We're scientists just like you. :P > > === Solutions/Trials === > * Re: 1) (Thelmadatter) I think we should take cues from the GLAM > program which is almost completely decentralized. We have an online > wiki education newsletter in the Education portal on outreach > http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education_Portal/Newsletter > > (LiAnna) It is not only necessary to provide translations but it is > necessary to localize resources. Sage Ross can be a supporter. > > * New newsletter: > - To receive an email reminder of new online newsletter, please > contant me (Thelmadatter) at [email protected] > > * (Thelmadatter) Need teacher workshops for teachers by teachers > > * WMF team size: > - The team at WMF is small. Three people and 2 open positions. The > solutions need to take also into account the dimentions of the WMF > team and what they can do. > > More simple solution is promote better communication among people > involved. Devolve initiative and "status" to people outside of San > Fran. > > > * Mentoring: > - Have a kind of mentoring for groups who wants to start a program and > wants learn from others who have already started something > > * (Iolanda) Words. 1. Using the word "partner" helps the atmosphere > and the way things are done -- instead of "supporter". > (Toni) WMUK looks forward to potential partnerships with other > chapters on Education program developments. > > 2. Wikipedians, educators, wikimedians, students are not necessarly > separate categories. If they cross it is a success. It is acutally > what the programmes are meant for. > Re: (Tom) I agree. For this reason I believe a education program > should not involve only Wikipedia. > > > * (Shani) Sinergies among GLAMs and eduction can be very productive. > And there are a lot of overlappings. > Re: (Tom) I completly agree. > > 8.a) > > > > 12:30-14:00 Lunch > > 14:00-15:00 Success? > > 15:00-15:15 Break > > 15:00-16:30 More success? > > 16:30-17:00 Wrap up/next steps > > _______________________________________________ > Education mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education > -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) "A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing."
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