Keeping kids safe from "adult" articles is a valid parent/teacher
concern, and it may be very important in some cultures. And we should
all recall the Florida teacher who lost her job when her kids
accidentally got onto a pornsite in her classroom.
I've worked on the 1.0 project on en:wp. When we produce offline
collections of the English Wikipedia articles (often for schools), on
DVD or flash drive, space is often limited. Therefore we sometimes
provide only a selection of articles rather than the full encyclopedia.
We can screen out the pornstars and the extreme violence by not
selecting articles tagged by certain WikiProjects. (We leave in basic
informational articles such as those on human anatomy). However, this
approach only works on Wikipedias that use WikiProject tags, such as en
and fr.
Another issue is when obscene/racist phrases are inserted into otherwise
clean articles by vandalism. That's one reason we did the offline
project; we used a variation of the WikiTrust tool to select a clean
version (RevIDs) of each article. Obviously these collections can't be
used where kids are actively editing, but it has its place.
Using these two methods we were able to put together a pretty child-safe
collection of WP articles - safer than many YouTube comments pages!
Unfortunately, our code isn't working as well as it used to, and our
coder isn't active at the moment, so we can't make a new collection....
Martin
Martin A. Walker
Department of Chemistry
State University of New York at Potsdam
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On 6/18/2014 4:21 AM, Gabriel Thullen wrote:
Like I said before, great job for both Israel and Serbia !
There is one very important issue that we (as WM Chapters) need to
address, now that Wikipedia editing will be part of the official school
curriculum. How do we answer teachers or parents raising concerns about
the so-called "adult" material found on Wikipedia ? Some of it is
downright porn, and we (as Chapters) have to be able to answer these
concerns.
[[:fr:Catégorie:Position sexuelle]] = [[:en:Category:Sex positions]] =
other interwikis
or
Commons: Category:Wiki-Sexuality Images
The Geneva education department has an Internet filter that blocks some
of the articles on the English wiki, for example
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingering_(sexual_act)
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingering_(sexual_act)> is blocked, but
does not filter the French wiki fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doigtage
<http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doigtage>. Obviously, the web filter
companies are US (aka English speaking), so they may or may not filter
other language Wikipedia pages. What we absolutely should avoid is this
type of web filtering, and certainly not such filtering done by separate
countries.
Please note that I have always been opposed to censorship in general and
opposed to censoring Wikimedia in particular. The issue has been raised
a few times over the past few years, and I have always been able to
provide adequate answers to the parents or school officials. But now
that Wikipedia editing is a part of the official curriculum, these
questions need a more "official" answer as well. Information should be
freely available to all, even so-called "adult" information. As a school
teacher using the web in class, I have to keep a watch on the web sites
the students browse and discuss with them how to deal with inappropriate
web sites that slip through the filters. I do the same when my students
start surfing on sex-ed related Wikipedia articles...
I can just imagine the uproar in Israel when one or the other of the
more conservative religious groups finds out the kind of articles young
students are subjected to in class... I say that for Israel, but the
same uproar will be possible in some of the Swiss Cantons when Wikipedia
editing becomes an official part of their curriculum (each Canton has
its own curriculum, some Cantons include religious education, some do
not, and so on). We need, at the very least, a set of arguments we can
use to defend Wikipedia. For the moment, nobody has said anything,
probably because adults are usually not very curious. Our kids, on the
other hand, tend to explore a lot more...
Anyway, that was some food for thought. I am looking forward to learning
about how you will cope with that kind of issue, I know that the same
problem might arise some day here in Switzerland.
Gabe
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Vojtěch Dostál
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Below is my Wednesday e-mail which was denied from the conversation
because I sent it from an incorrect adress:
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Congratulations to Israel and Serbia!
Now comes the tough job for you, though! You have to prove to the
public & to the teachers that Wikipedia is actually worth having in
the school curriculum. The worst scenario is teachers and parents
going crazy about the latest government's invention. You should
really make Wikipedia as beneficial to the students as possible, and
you also need to prepare the community for an enormous workload!
Not an easy job, but worth working for!
Good luck both of you, and I will be looking forward to the first
results.
Vojtěch Dostál
vice-chair
Wikimedia Czech Republic
2014-06-11 8:52 GMT+02:00 Oona Castro <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
excellent news! congratulations!
Did you guys see Israel is also to get Wikipedia included in
the curriculum of public schools? Sorry for crossposting in
case it has been shared here:
http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=18059
I'm really excited to hear and learn more about these
initiatives, though I'm really concerned about our
limitations in the Brazilian education system.
Oona
On 11 June 2014 03:42, Nurunnaby Chowdhury <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Wow..excellent news Mile!
Congratulations..
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On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Shani
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Great news, Mile!
Looking forward to seeing you in London and hear
some more, :-)
Shani.
On 11 Jun 2014 01:31, "Jens Best"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
That's really great news. Congratulations to all
people involved in preparing and realizing this
important success.
best regards
Jens Best
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Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
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2014-06-10 23:13 GMT+02:00 Mile Kiš
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
Hello everyone!
I am honored to inform you that several
months of integrating Wikipedia into primary
and secondary schools in Serbia has finally
paid off!
After the Ministry has prescribed that from
September 2014 all students of the second
year of secondary school curriculum */_must
study wiki tools_/*, Institute for the
Improvement of knowledge and education has
included a course on Wikipedia in its
catalog of programs of continuous
professional development of teachers,
professors and other school personnel. We
got accreditation for two years. Not a lot
applicants got accreditation.
This course will start in December.
first challenge we successfully crossed :)
next will come.
I started writing blog post about this and
hope it will be ready on 20 June.
If you have some questions I will be happy
to answer you :)
Mile Kiš
Vikimedija Srbije - rs.wikimedia.org
<http://rs.wikimedia.org> -
00381 (0)60 7 454 772
<tel:00381%20%280%2960%207%20454%20772>
„Zamislite svet u kome svaka osoba ima
slobodan pristup celokupnom ljudskom znanju.
To je ono na čemu mi radimo.“
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